Sailing On The Dumb Dumb Couch With Chuck Landon
by JohnRadcliff on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST
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It's not as if we shouldn't expect some torpedoes from Chuck Landon. It is the first of the year, and there hasn't been anything worth reporting in Huntington since training camp. It's kind of like his state of the union. His crystal ball gives him all the reasons for the Mountaineers demise each year. He plays Hunter Thompson for a couple days, and voila.
As much as WVU officials, athletes and fans want to believe the Big East is in their rear view mirrors and the future is now for Big 12 membership. ...
There's a good chance it won't happen. Not in 2012 and, perhaps, not ever.
There is a good chance we could still be in the Big East next year. The Big 12 knew it and even publicly stated that the move was not contingent on West Virginia getting out of the Big East for 2012. Which Landon notes. But he goes on to say that a contingency may still exist. Sure. I mean, a conference that just lost two teams is going to publicly say one thing and then do the other. Credibility would have to be an issue at that point. Wouldn't it? After that, convincing any school to join would have to include at least a few hookers just to get in the door.
What's more likely to happen is that some politicians from Big 12 states and maybe Florida are going to start leaning on the right people and a deal will get done. It may not be one we were hoping for. But it'll get done and we'll all move along. I mean, if we're just going to throw stuff up against the wall to see what sticks...I'll take that bet.
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i thought if i ignored this dumshit he would go away.
landon = the worste case of herpegonosyphalitis EVER!
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 9, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions
Let's see
do we believe Oliver Luck or the Chuckster? I’ll just ignore the irrelevant journalist and go with the AD who knows what is actually happening in regards to our move.
24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
I’m not sure the Big 12 still will take WVU if the Mountaineers aren’t on-board for the 2012 season. Remember, that once was a contingency for WVU’s potential membership. Then, the league claimed it wasn’t.
Don’t be surprised if the contingency still exists.
Saywha? Because if WVU doesn’t play in the B12 in 2012, the conference will just go find someone who can? Yeah, good luck with that. Maybe Landon makes decisions that have serious implications on the future based on immediate availability (i.e. hey, this fat Marshall marketing major is available tonight, so I guess I’ll marry her instead of waiting on the attractive psych student at WVU who said she can’t go out with me until next week). But not the B12—-they know the value WVU brings, regardless of whether WVU is there in 2012.
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did anyone see the end of the article?
Chuck Landon is a columnist for The Herald-Dispatch. Call him at 304-526-2827 or email him at clandon@herald-dispatch.com.
This is at the bottom of the article. I wonder if he sounds as dumb as he writes. Or worse.
Son, never argue with a pig...
It may annoy the animal, bit it just wastes your time.
2012 Orange Bowl Champs: "I haven’t seen a Tiger take a beating like that since Elin grabbed her 9-iron."
I have no inside knowledge living in Austin so I’m just throwing this out there…
Why wouldn’t the Big 12 wait? Landon just said that the conference may not want to wait? What difference does it make? The conf. commish has publicly said that they are open to more expansion, but nothing else has been said. If the ACC, PAC 12 and the SEC stays the same (they already poached two members and everyone else has signed a pact, of sorts, to stay put), why would we be in any rush to add new members? If we have to wait on WV, then we just schedule until you get here.
Besides, the more new members we add, the less revenue each school will get from the new television deal. We can definitely count in Austin (Aggies can’t so the SEC is their best bet) and if anything, our AD likes money. Adding TCU and WV was good bang for the buck but there aren’t any other schools worth considering other than BYU (don’t know what happened there) and possibly ACC teams. And I don’t see them leaving unless they get an SEC offer.
Did I miss something in the article that went over my head? Is he a writer that throws stuff out there to annoy people or make them comment so he draws more hits? (We have one in Houston, Richard Justice. You will love him…)
And would the Big East not allow schools to buy their way out of the contract? Are they just trying to save a dying conference, hoping you won’t leave after all is said and done?
"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo
The Big XII will wait...
…and 2012 / 2013 will be the last season in the Big East for Cuse, Pitt and WV. The new schools arive in 2013 and you can’t have a football conference with just five schools if the BE lets everyone go at the end of this season. A deal will be made for the three to leave after next season – a year earlier than they are supposed to. No one can claim they are hurt by that deal and it seems to be the fairest way to resolve this. The Big XII will absolutely wait. There is no team out there that can come into the league, or would want to come into the league for 2012 atthis point. The only thing that would be a glitch for WV is if the Pac-12 makes good on its own expansion rumors and grabs the Texas schools and Oklahoma schools, but that would not prevent them from leaving.
Texas will not leave for the PAC 12. Ever. Deloss Dodds didn’t plan to leave the first time this came up two years ago and we weren’t leaving this time around. The reports swirling around (see Chip Brown) were dead wrong. We have a cash cow called the LHN (Longhorn Network) and there is no way Dodds will ever give that up. (Well, it isn’t that revenue-rich right now, but it will be.) It ensures the Texas athletic department financial health for eons.
And the PAC 12 does not want OU without Texas. Or rather, Texas’ money.
"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo
Never say never...
…If everyone is planning to go to sixteen, there is no room for the Big XII. There is still resentment against Texas from the membership so if the Pac-12 comes calling with a good deal, the Texas and Okie schools will go. Either way, WV will hit the Big XII in 2013, and the Big XII will wait for them to get there.
Trust me, Texas is not leaving. They would have to pry the LHN out of Dodds’ cold, dead hands and it ain’t happening.
But you are right about expansion. If everyone goes to 16, then the Big 12 may be forced by market forces to expand. But Texas still isn’t leaving. Period.
OU can’t leave because the PAC 12 doesn’t want them without the cash cow (Texas). They found that out last summer. (Can we say egg on OU Pres. David Boren’s face? Most enjoyable for all us in Austin.)
"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo
You can have a conference with seven
Because the Big East has done that before.
WVU will be playing in the Big 12 in 2012. Based on their track records, Dr. Clements and Oliver Luck have a lot more believability than than the Providence patronage mill.
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
You'll still be here....
…you made the rules. You should follow them.
You should read up on contract law
Marinatto and his gang of idiots in Providence brought this on themselves. They deserve whatever they get for being, by miles, the most incompetent conference leadership in college sports.
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why I should trust you on what Texas will do...
….yet I do anyway.
Hey, I write for Burnt Orange Nation. What other credentials do you need? :-)
It is true about Texas and Dodds. The whole conference could fall apart and Texas would still stay a member of the Big 12. We would be lonely, but we would stay.
And we’re not going independent, either. Read anything Dodds has said. You can say what you want about him, but the man lays all his cards on the table and he isn’t dishonest. (The Aggies will tell you something different, but there are two sides that story.) He has said all along that his intention was to remain in the Big 12. When Nebraska left and the PAC 12 came knocking the first time, there were all kinds of stories about Scott flying in to seal the deal with Texas. There was never any deal to begin with. Chip Brown was dead wrong on that story. Scott was here to offer Texas an invitation, but Dodds never planned to leave. There were many reasons, the biggest being the LHN. Texas will not give it up.
Any school that gives up all their media rights to the conference is just stupid. You are cutting yourself out of future revenue, possible future technology and media opportunities.
Luck knows exactly what he is doing. Smart guy.
"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo
landon is a dick....pure and simple....as always
if he was writing for shit…he wouldnt get a smell..dont know why him and a few other toe jams from slumington always puts their fat, pimply ridden noses in WVU’s business…cant stand those green slimy freaks of nature….oh…and have a nice day :)
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