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Snap Judgement: We Got Hosed

The video for that missed goal tending call will most likely be up by the time I finish typing this sentence. So I'll just have to add a link when it does. In what was otherwise an excellent game today, that was a real flub by the refs.

I feel sorry for the guys on the team. Because they played a hell of a game today. Truck was hitting shots after such a horrible drought. Jones was what he always is, incredible. The young guys made a lot more contributions than mistakes. I've seen past teams not able to hang close and come back in the dome. In other words, this was shaping up to be one of the top performances of the year.

Sadly, it all went down the drain on a no-call. The only good thing to take away now is the lesson that you can't put yourself in the position that you need to make the last shot to win. It's nice when you do, but when you don't, it's sucks big ones to walk away with nothing. So just for the hell of it, here's something to walk away with.

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casazza tweeted

That huggs would be lucky to get out of the presser without a fine.

by JohnRadcliff on Jan 28, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

How three

“professionals” are unable to see the most blatant call of the game is beyond me. The entire Carrier Dome saw what we saw, the difference being they were all in orange and more than happy to take the gift. I would like to know what Boeheim said to Huggins as they shook hands. Huggs didn’t seem to interested in chatting.

by huggybear67 on Jan 28, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Going by 'cuse's blog...

…they all think they deserved a “pass” for getting screwed in previous games.

"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West

by MountaineerAirman on Jan 28, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah

Flawed logic at its greatest. On a side note, I was patiently waiting for Darwin Cook to show up and tackle the ’Cuse mascot. I hate that thing.

by huggybear67 on Jan 28, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

jay bilas

Tweeted that JB told huggs he should have won.

by JohnRadcliff on Jan 28, 2012 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Boeheim

has been at this long enough to call BS when he sees it. Thanks for the update.

by huggybear67 on Jan 28, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What a total shame. For what it’s worth, my best friend is a Cuse fan (there are lots of them here in Rochester, NY) and he called me after the game to admit that we got hosed and to say WVU would have won that game if it had gone to overtime due to the Orange’s foul situation (Christmas fouled out, Keita sitting on 4 fouls).

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by willgarr15 on Jan 28, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

The foul/Fab situation

would not have been favorable to us in OT I’ll admit, but we still would have had 9 secs to get a game winning shot off. Sucks when the refs decide the game, although I’m surprised it wasn’t Higgins or Burr this time.

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by 'CuseRugby on Jan 28, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

That’s why I said IF it went to OT. Def plenty of time to get a tie-breaking shot off.

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by willgarr15 on Jan 28, 2012 8:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

You guys got robbed

The Big East refs are such an absolute joke

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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

A Hokie/WV native who hates your guts here.

Wow, you guys got screwed. I’m not sure how this was even a question. Damn.

Future events such as these will affect you in the future...

by OHokie on Jan 28, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think

It’s some big east conspiracy, but those refs are all beyond terrible.

by bennywvu on Jan 28, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Big East refs suck.

If it’s any consolation, I’m not all that proud of this win. Very disappointing. You guys got screwed over. I’m sure Jimmy feels the same way.

Cheers to leaving the conference. Hopefully, we won’t have to deal with that dumbassery anymore.

by pegs on Jan 28, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

If Jones nails the 3 at the buzzer...

the missed call would have helped you, not hosed you. Would you be complaining then?

It’s not like the goaltending call would have given you a lead with 2 seconds left … it would havd only tied the game with 9-10 seconds left, and SU ball going the other way.

by DanteAmore on Jan 29, 2012 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Rationalize it all you want.

And of course what you are saying is true. ’Cuse may have come down and hit a buzzer beater or they could have beat us in overtime. But none of that changes the fact that a blatant goal tending was not called.

by huggybear67 on Jan 29, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Also,

I think anyone in their right mind would take points on the board over an extra possession any day of the week. But nice try.

by huggybear67 on Jan 29, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense

But what the hell does that have to do with anything? What’s right is right. The goaltending call was blatantly missed. If Jones hit that 3, it would have been poetic justice. That is now 2 Big East losses we have had to swallow where the referees cost us a chance to tie the game in the final seconds (lost the ball out of bounds when it was clearly bobbled by Oriakhi). I honestly would rather have lost on a Syracuse go-ahead basket in the final seconds after Kilicli’s lay-in was counted. In the spirit of competition, that missed call ruined a perfectly great basketball game. If you can’t admit that, then go crawl back in your hole under the Carrier Dome.

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by willgarr15 on Jan 29, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

You turned the ball over 14 times,

and you missed two 3-pointers in the last 15 seconds.

My heart bleeds.

I suppose you should have been whistled for a technical against Cincinnati for calling a TO when you didn’t have any left. Don’t remember anyone whining about that missed call.

by DanteAmore on Jan 29, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Difference is

I am willing to admit that we should have been given a technical, IF THE CALL WAS MADE. I wonder if you are willing to admit the same concerning the goal tending, IF THE CALL WAS MADE. But by all means, keep deflecting the issue at hand.

by huggybear67 on Jan 29, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No T applicable when there's no possession ...

And no possession during that scramble for the ball…clock just ran out.

It's all wrong, but it's all right.

by OldPhil on Jan 29, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll admit we got lucky that they missed that TO call against cincinnati. that game was tied and cinci deserved a shot to win it at the line. But your argument that we left a lot on the floor before that point against cuse is moot. its right, but it doesn’t change the fact that the referees missed the most blatant goaltending call since Ewing jr on DaSean Butler.

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by willgarr15 on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

That was a "You're going to the Big XII" call right there

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 29, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

It was a bad call, but I don't think it was this.

The refs aren’t “Big East” refs the way football refs are. They are independent contractors who do games in a variety of leagues. There is no affiliation with the BE other than the fact that they happened to be calling a BE game that night. Plus, Syracuse is going to the ACC (which precipitated WVU’s exit to the B12 in the first place).

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by Country Roads on Jan 29, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes we got hosed

but it’s no conspiracy with the league/retribution (at the same time, they won’t do anything about it either)

…the refs work too many games and as such, they aren’t as good as they need to be. I think I saw where this crew has worked 21 games in 28 days….including travel, that’s too much

by WVUIE97 on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I certainly doubt that the integrity of these officials is so low that they would try to throw a game for some sort of retribution for the Big East. The real problem with college officiating is exactly as you said: over working the crews. And the worst part is that the best crews get worked the hardest, so that they become worn out and probably no better than the lesser crews, making it seem as if the entire NCAA officiating is complete garbage.

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by willgarr15 on Jan 29, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

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