Dr. Strangebrew Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Beer At Mountaineer Field
Oliver Luck was hired as athletic director at West Virginia University for the same reason that anyone hires an athletic director: to administer the department to successes on the field and do it spending less money than is coming in each year. Sure, the actual job description is much more complicated than that, but that one sentence gets close to the heart of the task heaped upon Luck in Morgantown. And while simply defined, it is far from easily completed.
To run an annual budget surplus, Luck and the Mountaineer Athletic Department must generate revenue. To do that, we must sell something. Whether that be television rights through the conference, tickets, luxury boxes, rights to put the flying WV on t-shirts, or pretzels at the concession stand, a product must be going out the door and money must be replacing it inside the WVU Coliseum's athletic offices. In West Virginia, selling a product isn't exactly easy.
Compared to other schools in major conferences, WVU is a small school in a small state with a small war chest. While Morgantown might be included in the Pittsburgh market through creative means, the fact remains that this state only contains 1.85 million people, and those people boast the 48th ranked median income in the country. Creative means prove necessary when the underlying set of circumstances do not lie in your favor. That is a situation Luck is faced with -- to generate funds through any reasonable means necessary.
But does selling beer at Mountaineer Field meet that test? In a word: yes.
I have long advocated that selling beer at Mountaineer Field would actually lessen rowdy fan behavior. There is very little standing in the way of a regular fan sneaking booze into the stadium. That is true now and will be true even if beer sales are approved by the Board of Governors. What might change, however, is beer sales acting as a deterrent to some from taking advantage of that smuggling opportunity. Speaking from my own point of view, I can say I would be less likely to bring liquor into the stadium -- which I have done before -- if I know I can purchase beer instead. It saves a headache, both figuratively and literally (because brown liquor does that to you).
Not all fans will share my viewpoint. Listening to Talkline with Hoppy Kercheval this morning, that became crystal clear. Anecdotal stories of the horror persuasion were relentlessly recounted. Fears of being vomited on or cursed out were thrown about like it was nothing. That may happen, but it's not going to happen solely because beer is available inside the stadium.
Dave Poe, the sports editor for the Parkersburg News-Sentinel (and a writer I especially respect, though our views diverge here), shares their fears.
So now WVU is going to allow those who already have had a few or a few too many to increase their level of intoxication once they are inside the stadium.
The fans that want to increase their level of intoxication will do so regardless of WVU alcohol policy. No fan, regularly 100% sober at games, is going to decide to all of a sudden drink 10 beers because they're now being sold. That type of fan was drinking that much to begin with and beer wasn't even being sold. While that fan will continue to do that, there may be a fan or two who, instead of the much more potent smuggled liquor will instead turn to beer and not become so unruly. He (or she) might feel less compelled to "get a running start" in the parking lot, knowing they can continue a small buzz throughout the game.
Beyond theory, I have no way of actually proving those beliefs. Truly, other than reported fan incidents recorded by event staff and Morgantown or University police, it will be very difficult to prove it after the fact, even from Oliver Luck. But even if fan behavior doesn't improve, the added revenue sales will greatly help the athletic department's coffers. If fan behavior just stays the same, this will be a huge win for the Mountaineer program.
Some fans opposition to selling beer at Mountaineer Field is another example of us standing in our own way. The older crowd is making excuses about what could potentially go wrong, while ignoring all the things that make sense about this proposal. Appalachian conservatism (or fatalism, as is often the case) leads to an all-too-easy wagging of fingers blaming the faceless drunk as the problem of Mountaineer Field. This proposal fits neatly into that box, allowing some fans to quickly dismiss it. Examining the idea more completely, however, shows that it makes sense. Our athletic director has reached the same conclusion.
And if fan behavior worsens significantly? While I don't believe that will happen, I trust that Oliver Luck, a capable manager with a wealth of athletics experience, will make the correct decision for our university.
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a very good analysis of the issue…this is nearly the exact same view i have of the issue, not to mention a lot of people who really want to get messed up and end up being rowdy are going out at halftime to rip alcohol and that is something Ollie wants to eliminate.
I agree.
Making a desired product illegal creates a black market demand for it.
By taking control of the situation, the school can generate some additional revenue and perhaps control that need to “‘get a running start’ in the parking lot, knowing they can continue a small buzz throughout the game.”
Luck continues to show his value.
by TheMattROb on Apr 11, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Appalachain Fatalism will hopefully get out of the way on this one
I experienced my own bout with this problem the last few years under Bill Stewart. I was afraid of getting rid of a quality guy and 9 wins a season, on the off-chance that something went wrong with our next hire.
I’m over that now and I want to take some chances. We need to get out of our own way to help build the program. We are not yet a Texas that can get $100 million for TV rights, but we can get there one day and Oliver Luck has us going in the right direction.
by 5th Year Senior on Apr 11, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Those outside of WV think this is a joke.
I live in the Charlotte, NC market, and we have two sportstalk radio stations. Most of the guys who appear on the local shows are those that are usually from this area. When the Mountaineers are relevant nationally and locally (last year’s Final Four or this year’s Champs Bowl against N.C. State, e.g.) that is when they get talked about on the local yokel stations. The point of view coming from ACC country about Mountaineer fans are that they are among the most passionate and rowdy of any group of fans in the nation. They can’t mention ‘WVU’ without throwing in something about ‘couch burning.’
The subject of the petition to the BOG about the alcohol sales came up this morning in one segment, and the hosts spent five minutes making jokes about ‘adding fuel to the couch fires’ and more ‘whiskey bottles being thrown on the field.’
But, this host only read the headline and probably first paragraph of the story before coming to an opinion. He didn’t know that people wouldn’t be allowed to leave the stadium to presumably go do keg stands at halftime in the parking lot anymore. He didn’t know the ‘Freakonomics’ aspect of the proposal; i.e.- you give people what they think is a reward hoping that it curbs a certain behavior.
I’m all for this.
It's about time
WVU eliminates the “pass-out” program (and I mean that literally and figuratively). I say this half-joking because selling alcohol in the stadium doesn’t guarantee less drinking pre-game. However, I think it would definitely help and this possibility outweighs the current policy. I often remember not wanting to take my engraved flask of Jim Beam into the game due to headache of losing flask if security somehow found it. Moreover, the potential for revenue is my #1 reason for approving of this policy (as it surely is the #1 reason for Oliver Luck)……
And another thing………Can we stop calling him “Ollie”. His name is Oliver.
Afraid of losing your engraved flask?
That’s one of the top three reasons they invented plastic airplane bottles. Come on, you’re smarter than that.
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by Country Roads on Apr 11, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
but there was something about taking my own flask to a WVU game.
I say this..... I have seen what our fans do when they can purchase it legally (sugar bowl '05)
and it was no different then when they sneak it in with one glaring issue. The inside of the Georgia dome was a beer waterfall before half time and the behavior for those partaking was above and beyond out of control. I think everyone should be allowed to have a few beers to loosen up but a lot of people get piss ass wasted and that is beyond retarded. Why bother to attend something that you will have no record of and honestly could give to shits about? If you really truly enjoy the atmosphere and the camaraderie try cutting it back to a fender bender instead of a full fledged head on. I love going to games and hanging out with my friends that like to drink, its the jack holes that don’t know when to quit that gives us all the bad press and stereo types. I am all for it but get rid of pass outs, because honestly they have no place in college football, if you want to watch football then stay for the whole game if you want to go “hang out” at half time don’t waste a ticket, because most times those people don’t come back and if the do it isn’t till well into the 3rd or maybe even the 4th quarter. Ok I have said my peace, let the berating begin……
+1
A buddy of mine went to the Maryland game this past season. He scalped tickets for $150 a peice, which was dumb in itself, then only to sit in the student section. Got totally wasted before the game, left midway in the second quarter and never came back in. To me that was stupid and pointless, to others, they may think its fine.
by ShadyMountaineer on Apr 12, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Nationwide Arena has a two beer policy
so I think we could do that.
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by WVPiratesfan on Apr 12, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
That only works because Ohioans are all drunk after 2 beers.
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by Country Roads on Apr 12, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
I’ve never realized that, although I don’t normally get wasted watching the Pens thrash the Jackets.
I'm all for
selling the beer in the stadium though
by ShadyMountaineer on Apr 12, 2011 7:54 AM EDT reply actions
The equalizer comes.
Ok, you want beer inside the stadium? Fine. The equalizer – post game the check points will be out on Pattison Ave. and Monongahela Blvd. to catch the ones who need a law enforcement enema before getting on I-79. Plan on staying in town a little longer while each vehicle is profiled. You know him/her, the ones in the flat hats in the green uniforms. Two beers you probably will drive away. Three beers or more on a breathelizer and you are off to the can and a court appearance. When enough of those stories are talked about, then the consumption is tempered and the obnoxious drunk idiots are far fewer. It does not take long. I just hope we do not merit a Bud Lite commercial of our own …….Bud Lite salutes the big, hairy, burly Mountaineers who squeeze themselves into a 32 inch waist thong at the beach! TMI!

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