West Virginia University Is Big XII Bound (AGAIN): So Long Big East Celebration Thread
by WVUIE97 on Oct 28, 2011 10:45 AM EDT
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After another drawn out, gut wrenching wait...WVU has seemed to have finally FINALLY FINALLY escaped the clutches of the Big East. To our fellow WVU fans and bloggers:
And to the Big East, especially John Marinatto:
We'll leave the lights on for you to turn off later. Now...about that exit fee and 27 month wait...
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I second the motion.
Can’t wait for the Huggins-Martin “rivalry” to begin in Wichita. I bet they hate it, though.
Wooooooooooooooooo!
I still miss Kevin Pittsnogle.
USC knockoff uniforms, none of the results (including probation)
Wide Right & Natty Lite | @widertnattylt
Yes, Welcome.
Let it be known that Stillwater will welcome Dana back to the with open arms when WV plays here! We will just kick the 6 vagrants with $5.73 apiece out of #112, Dana’s old room!
by Yachoffsmirnoff on Oct 25, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the Circle D Motel, 923 N. Boomer rd.
*to the Circle D when WV plays here…
It would have been a lot funnier if the link had worked.
by Yachoffsmirnoff on Oct 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats
Now let’s work to get out for 2012
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
whoah!!
Something Pitt and WVU fans can agree on? I’ll take this one.
by WVUIE97 on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It happens occasionally. I think we all can agree Marinatto’s an idiot.
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
and
here’s to hoping the series’ in the different sports can continue long term, even if there may be a short break
Football will be tough since the big 12 and the acc will both likely play 9 conference games. Is wvu still being forced to play Marshall?
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it’ll depend on whether Pitt keeps playing ND. If not then the brawl definitely continues. If they do, I’m not sure. As for other sports I imagine the brawl will still be played
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WVU's schedule is already booked through 2016 if its a 9 game conference schedule
maybe some thinks can be worked out to alter deals in place though
As a K-State fan, I think most of the Big 12 fans want 12 teams
Which would result in an 8-game conference sked.
Not necessarily...
The Pac-12 plays a nine-game football conference schedule. (Of course, since the Austin Evil Empire decreed only 10 members and the serfs have meekly agreed, such talk is moot.)
The Brawl will be played in all sports
w/o a break in action, imo.
WVU/Marshall….that’s cute
Pitt/ND….that’s cute
WVU and PITT is THE rivalry of those 2 schools. It’s that simple. We need each other and the Backyard Brawl. Playing football w/o playing each other would be weird. It would make NO sense not to make this game happen EVERY year, ala Clemson/USC, Iowa/Iowa St.
Hell, we’re essentially “cross town” rivals.
I agree
(PITT and WVU people agreeing on ANOTHER THING?!)
The Brawl should be played every year and I’d hate to see it become a Pitt/PSU type things where twice every decade or so.
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Look for the following to happen:
WVU and PITT will play annually in all sports (perhaps not the first season due to logistics, scheduling, etc.)
WVU and Syracuse will play OFTEN in football and also in the other sports.
It’s not as imperative as the PITT rivalry but it will happen.
WVU’s biggest rivals have been in this historical order:
5. Penn St (although moreso to us than us to them)
4. Maryland
3. Syracuse
2. Virginia Tech
1. PITT
….actually Virginia Tech would be lower than the other 3 but they were a huge rival in the 80-00’s.
It would be a tremendous blunder on the part of Luck/Pederson not to maintain the Backyard Brawl. It is a national rivalry w/ a trademarked name that easily identifies the participants. It must and will continue. Luck is too astute not to understand the importance of the series.
by WVUColumbus on Oct 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Things Steve Pederson has ruined
1) Pitt Stadium
2) Script Pitt
3) Nebraska football for half a decade
Wouldn’t surprise me for him to ruin something else
Cardiac Hill contributor
by oaklandzoo12 on Oct 25, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
When is your
troll battery going to run out
www.CuseRugby.com
www.SyracuseRugby.com
by 'CuseRugby on Oct 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll drink to that!!!
In fact, this round is on me! Can’t wait to head west for our first road game! I’m so happy this nightmare is over. Thanks Ollie!!!
Still wish the SEC would have taken you over Mizzou
But good luck in your travels and hopefully you can join us in the future.
d-wade=d-ouche
by captainamerica* on Oct 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Finally!!!! Thank you Mr. Luck!!!!!
This San Antonio based West Virginian can’t wait to head up to Austin, Waco, Lubbock and Ft. Worth to watch my Beloved Mountaineers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s a good day to be a mountaineer fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Vingle tweeting:
“There will be a press conference with the Big 12 folks tomorrow. The long wait/mess is over…”
Anyone else think once all the domino's fall, WVU may not be the only BE team heading to the 12?
I think it’s a real possibility that the 6 schools that the BE was targeting will now refuse the invites, and the Big 12 may go after UL and Cincy, at which point the BE will cease to exist as a fooball conference.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Yes.
I feel Louisville is next in line to leave BE for Big 12.
Professional Mountaineer Blogger- SmokingMusket.com
Once L'ville
escapes, I hope the Big East just folds up.
You should see the USF blog though, they’re already buying CUSA merchandise.
www.CuseRugby.com
www.SyracuseRugby.com
Yeah, they'll have to, or...
Merge with another conference, like CUSA.
Professional Mountaineer Blogger- SmokingMusket.com
Poor Skip Holtz, I give him another year maybe 2.
by EatSchmittPitt35 on Oct 25, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets Hope
Lets hope the Ville and Cinn get to come with it besides the Pitt game I think these two teams are the new rivalry. I mean lets face it. I dont get pumped up for Rut., Conn, Cuse, USF as much as I do the Ville and Cinn. I just hope the big 12 invites both teams.
I want a helmet.
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
Yessssss
Welcome aboard the crazy train. Your dysfunctions should fit in nicely with our own.
75-37-5. Now GTFO.
When are we allowed to start hating Texas like everyone else in the Big 12?
by Mountaineer Chuck on Oct 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Immediately
You are part of the family now. We have margaritas, tex-mex and some damn good brisket ready for y’all. The hate for Texas is a given once you see our filthy room full of $1B worth of gold buillion (its funny cuz it’s true).
Just please don’t burn our sofas on your way out of town after the games. We actually sit on our’s.
I have family near Wheeling so I plan to come to our first game. I’ve heard tell your fans are worse than tOSU? So, what is to be expected up there? Austin is a friendly place-you’ll have no worries and a great time.
Welcome to the Big XII.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
by Wrangler86 on Oct 25, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You aren't Pitt or Virginia Tech
you’ll be fine in Mo-Town.
finally!
Very excited about this. Would like to see Louisville and Cinci eventually included as well to develop some natural rivals. And if we keep Pitt on the schedule this will just be a huge upgrade for having big time football games to watch.
Basketball ain’t shabby either….certainly the football upgrade is incredibly more substantial than any downgrade of the basketball league. Kansas, Texas, OK, etc, plus if Louisville and Cinci are brought in as well.
LVille and Cincy have to go over eventually. Will help so much with travel.
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
I don't want Lou or Cincy
They both suck and the conference should pull a big televen and sit at 10 or 11 until good replacements are found, otherwise it’s watering down the conference.
TEXAS FIGHT
Louisville maybe, but Cincinnati?
Ew.
I really don’t think there’s any desire around Big 12 Country to add Cincinnati. They just don’t feel very Big 12 caliber.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Welcome to the Big XII
Where the Bar-B-Q is excellent and the cheerleaders wear chaps!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
How do u BIG12 folk feel about a good ole West Virginia couch BBQ???
by Mountain man 722 on Oct 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I never understood the couch burning - does it have some sort of deep seated spiritual meaning?
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
why we burn
wrote this explanation for my paper years ago — before we had a regularly updated web page, so it’s copied from the archive to my personal page.
and couches were kept on porches to allow for better lounging during the now-outlawed block parties.
i’m old.
One explanation
Morgantown’s Sunnyside neighborhood was (and probably still is) the province of some of the hardiest slumlords around. You can kiss your security deposit good-bye when you hand them the check.
Sunnyside apartments were often rented “furnished” with stuff the Salvation Army wouldn’t take. Given all that, might as well burn the couch, since a), you might get a new one, and b) you going to lose the security deposit anyway.
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Oct 26, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wishes...
I wish y’all were coming to the SEC….
deep down so do we
but we couldn’t stick around on a sinking ship any longer while Slive drooled over Missouri’s tv sets
If the Big XII is happy to have us, we are happy to have it
Does seem like MIzzou and WVu
are better fits the opposite of how this is playing out, but I think WVu will give the Big XII a lot more exciting games so I’m cool with it.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
We are your second choice? Aw, come on!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Whew.
Not ideal (given the travel and the loss of some traditional rivals), but there’s an abundance of quality football and tradition in the Big 12. I don’t relish the transition but anything’s better than another day on Marinatto’s death ship. We look forward to showing you folks a good time in Morgantown.
Plus, I could go for some decent brisket.
Come on...
you guys weren’t excited about the possibility of playing the top teams from C-USA and the MAC once they got invited to the Big East?
Don't get me wrong...
The Big East was dead when Pitt and ‘Cuse left. Not because they’re awesome or anything- Pitt sucks every single day. To paraphrase Cosmo Kramer, in my mind I was already gone. Looking forward to the future.
welcome
There is still a box at the front desk of the Stillwater comfort suites that has a bottle of brut, 113 dollars worth of hard rock chips, some sweaty sheets, and a Phil Collins greatest hits cd. Dana can just pick it up when he is in town.
by samuelbryant on Oct 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions 4 recs
This is pretty much how I see it.
I view the Big 12 move as a holding pattern and further dismantling of the Big East (if it evaporates completely, does the alimony check still get cashed?)
Not sure if I really see us playing there down the road. Will see.
by DanaHolgorsen'sPreCirrhoticLiver on Oct 25, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, This is a long term move for us..
Just be grateful that we have found a home among elite football and basketball programs in an outstanding conference. The last thing we should be contemplating is jumping around again in a few years.
Don’t forget that the Big 12 schools agreed to a give up Tier 1 and Tier 2 television rights while negotiating to keep TX, TX Tech, OK, and OK St. Once we are in, we are there for a minimum of 6 years (see below link):
We could be one of the unfortunate remaining 5 BE schools whose options are shrinking quickly.
I for one am thankful and happy that the Big 12 saw the value that WVU and it’s athletics programs brings to the table.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
by ---Cole--- on Oct 25, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm quite happy to have the Big East in the rearview
just not sure the musical chairs are done.
by DanaHolgorsen'sPreCirrhoticLiver on Oct 25, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course they're not done.
But that makes little difference. When media rights are granted, you’re locked in. Period. You’ll be in the Big 12 for 6 years, at least. I promise you. Might as well get used to the idea.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Really? That would be a total dick move.
Especially since we could have added someone else. If you’re going to join our conference, you should be committed to it, long-term, because if you won’t, someone else will.
Also, if y’all join, you’re not leaving for at least 6 years because you’ll be required to grant your media rights to the conference for that length of time. And after that period is up, I promise you that you won’t want to leave.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
New alignment - REAL BigXII
EAST DIVISION
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
West Virginia
Louisville (pending)
Cincinnati (pending)
TCU
WEST DIVISION
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Baylor
Texas
Texas Tech
BYU
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
cincy and louisville are likely
BYU?
even so we would be one short
USF and get into the SEC territory?
Still don't think BYU and WVU makes sense
One or the other would, and if you’re looking to 12 (or more) either ASAP or down the line, going east is a much better idea than going west, but going 1000 miles east and 1000 miles west in the same round of expansion seems a bit of a stretch to me, if you’re not doing crazy zombie Big East football-only adds.
Why not Boise St instead of BYU?
Can you tell me why I’ve not heard the Big 12 going after BSU instead of BYU?
by Mountaineer Chuck on Oct 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Boise State's
academics are a total joke. Even compared to us.
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 25, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiny fan base and school
Just doesn’t have the draw and too far away. And we have no desire to be with Boise for all the other sports also.
There are rumors of ND looking for a new landing spot. With the Big East imploding the Big XII is a logical spot for them to be hanging their hat.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
a few reasons
- academics are terrible (as others noted)
- other sports are mostly terrible
- small stadium
- small-ish fan base
- another 300 miles farther from everyone than Provo or Morgantown
A few points of order from the Boise State side of things:
BSU basketball has a very bright future. We’ve got a good coach in Leon Rice, international recruiting is starting to pay off, and Big 12 money could improve the basketball program immensely. In the Olympic sports, we’ve won national titles in both mens’ and womens’ track and field, and the wrestling program is also very strong. And of course, we all know how good the football program is.
Bronco Stadium is small, there’s no denying that. But there are also plans in place to renovate the stadium. In this plan, the full capacity will be increased to 53,000. That’s bigger than the stadiums at K-State, Baylor, and Kansas, and only slightly smaller than Iowa State’s. It ain’t Darrell K. Royal by any stretch of the imagination, but for a school the size of Boise State, it’ll do.
We might not have the biggest fanbase, but we make up for it not only by traveling well but also with national appeal. The controversial nature of our team leads to big ratings whenever we play a big-name opponent.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Will you get rid of the blue turf?
That’s just garish.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
It's tradition.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Sadly
It’s a tradition no one in the Big 12 wants, well actually never say never.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Yep, never say never
I wouldn’t mind them keeping the field, so long as they don’t pull the blue uniform thing on it.
TEXAS FIGHT
Cincinnati will never be a member of the Big 12.
We have higher standards than that.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I went to UT - my is not so good
EAST
TCU
WEST
BYU
+TCU
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I love the idea of poaching the SEC - we owe 'em
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Snide, I like the cut of your jib.*
We owe the Research Triangle schools some payback too; our day will come.
*not a come-on
I love the idea of dating Keira Knightley
In these scenarios, I actually have better odds than the Big 12.
"Lattimore, as the kids can say, can ball, and sometimes does it to the extent one might say [he] is out of control in his balling." - Spencer Hall
by GwinnettGamecock on Oct 26, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sigh - this is getting embarrasing
I went to UT – my MATH is not so good
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Dont sweat it...
WVU is a land grant school.
WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!!!! WOOOO!!!!!!!
Anyway, I make one hell of a brisket, so it’ll be nice to know we’ll fit in just fine.
You're invited to my tailgate then - I'm dynamite with pork ribs
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Sounds like a plan.
Look for me in a few years, after I get through college, which sadly prohibits my travel somewhat during football season. You’d think a Big East Basketball school would be more forgiving when it comes to big east football games…. haha.
But yeah, can’t wait to play Texas and TCU. Baylor’s always been a favorite of mine too.
by Scott Piazza on Oct 25, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Texas does Pork Ribs?
How fascinating..
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
lIt's the only way - we do cabrito as well which is the best BBQ, bar none!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Oct 25, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And here I was being ignorant
I thought the only decent Texas BBQ was brisket(not that it’s bbq in my mind). KC BBQ all day, every day.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Let me be the first Red Raider to say....
Welcome. Get your offense ready for some high scoring games!
Texas Tech....the home of no Defense. Except against OU.
by I bleed Red and Black on Oct 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks..looks like we
can compete with you for the residence of no Defense
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
LOL - Have you not seen the WVU? WE need to get ready for some high scoring games!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
WOOOHOOOO
get us into a real conference finally! that is one stout conference. Texas, OU, OSU, TT, Baylor, WVU, TCU…..
" Lord Stanley, scratch their names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
K-State fan here
Really excited to have you guys in the conference. Looking forward to some awesome basketball games!
Great news
The Big XII has always been my favorite conference when it came to style of play. Can’t wait.
WVU will have to expand the stadium
No more worries about 45,000 ….Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and TCU…we are going to need a bigger stadium.
I am thrilled!!!!!
by PicktownMountie on Oct 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
You are correct on the expansion
The entire state of Oklahoma goes to their games as does the state of Kansas. In Texas UT and well,………UT travels big as well.
You will need to seat, at least, 90,000. Now, basketball – look for Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State to slam your basketball arena. The states of Oklahoma and Texas – not so much.
By-the-way, we take baseball very serious as well.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Alternate caption:
“I can put my foot this far up Swofford’s ass.”
by Holgasm! on Oct 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
its amazing
that one day espn loves him the next they think hes a moron….
" Lord Stanley, scratch their names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Oct 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is great news.
I hope we can bring in a few other eastern teams join and ease the travel pains..
I ALSO hope we can get out of the BIG LEAST sooner rather than later.
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Congrats guys
You deserved to not rot in the Big East, I’m glad to see you escaped.
Hopefully we can get some OOC games going for that trophy too.
www.CuseRugby.com
www.SyracuseRugby.com
Absolutely.
Hate to see some schools go off the shed like Syracuse and Pitt.
Professional Mountaineer Blogger- SmokingMusket.com
10 teams?
Must’ve misunderstood but why are media outlets reporting that adding WVU would allow Big XII to remain at 10 teams with Missouri’s departure, what about TCU?
TCU replaced the Ags to stay at 10
And, you don’t want to know about the aggies. I think Texas paid the $EC to get rid of them.
Mizzou leaving drops us to 9 so WVu brings the Big XII back to 10. There are diffrent thoughts on going to 12 or not, but if we can get BYU or ND we would in a second. Also, the Big XII does own the rights to Big 14 and Big 16. And, I don’t think the Big XII wants to be bouncing at 9 again anytime soon.
BYU has some issues/concerns about playing sports on Sundays….which they are praying about and may have an answer shortly. I suspect the powers will come down similar to their answered prayers to integrate and not get kicked out of the ncaa. /s/ Too soon here>? Just let me know if I’m out of line yet.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Horn Fan here!
Congrats on the move!
Looking forward to a hell of a conference!
See ya’ll on game day!
Me: "Hunny, how much is our Wedding budget?"
Faince`"No, You can't have Craig Way call our wedding.."
Me: "Damnit.."
All Right, West Virginia!
This was a big surprise as I hadn’t been paying much attention. Glad to have you all in the Big XII. I’ve been to West Virginia (the state, not the U) and it’s really nice. Also, you guys using Left Hand beer to sponsor? Sweet! Nice to see you guys enjoy quality brew.
You're gonna love 6th street in Austin.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Since we are talking food and fun
What is the name of that great pizza place in Austin? I had a friend bring me one back on a plane (when you could still do that) and the aroma about got him mugged.
Well if you're drinking on 6th
Death Metal Pizza actually is pretty decent, though I don’t think I’ve ever had it sober so that probably colors my vision a lil.
TEXAS FIGHT
The name I was looking for was Conans.
but that has been a while. If there is one better I am in. One of those in an overhead bin on a plane and all the passengers are your friend.
Aw Hell Yeah!
I don’t think we can overstate the value of a quality Athletic Director and University President in times like these.
President Clements, kudos again for the Oliver Luck hire.
Oli…you are the stud fountain from which the next Heisman Trophy winner was birthed. Once again we see why!
West LUCKIN Virginia!!!
by Mountaineer Chuck on Oct 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This*
“Oli…you are the stud fountain from which the next Heisman Trophy winner was birthed. Once again we see why!”
That made me laugh so hard. Every one here at work is looking at me funny.
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
West, by God, Virginia - YES!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Congrats
Now, just take us and hopefully UC also and I am a very happy camper.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
I agree...
Big 12 should logically have 12 teams and I’m hoping for continued rivalries with UL & UC.
by Mountaineer Chuck on Oct 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
When's the press conference?
And how can we watch it?
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
Law School
WVU-Pitt-Syracuse lawyers should get together to figure out a way to expedite the 27 month waiting period… before Congress involves themselves in all this realignment shenanigans.
Orange you glad it's not football season?
If the Big East implodes, exit requirements will be academic.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Even if Big East football dies
The Big East will probably still exist … remember that there are eight schools other than the football schools, and they have no incentive to leave the Big East.
Basically – even if the Big East stops sponsoring football, it will probably still exist as a conference. Therefore the 27-month exit could still apply.
If they stopped sponsoring football next year, I’d suspect that WVU could get its football into the Big 12 immediately, but perhaps not its other sports.
I would think that the other BE schools might be willing to cut a deal and allow all of the football schools that want to leave (entirely) to get out early, probably for a higher paycheck.
Assumption is the mother of all @#%-ups.
It will be difficult
The one thing that Commissioner Marinara still has going for him is the 27 month waiting period and he will not give that up easily. The way she describes it, if the Big East lets SU, Pitt and WVU out early they will loose AQ status and the $20 million+ that comes with it. Even if he can only keep the league together by force for two more seasons, that is two more paychecks that he will not want to give up.
Also, congratulations to WVU on finding a good home. Even though things got a little heated on the message boards last week, I think most SU fans want to see a healthy WVU in the long run.
I think maybe the Big XII can force the issue some
Particularly if we threaten to take Louie and Cincy if the Big East doesn,t release WVU.
Two paychecks for a non-existant conference is non-existant!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Do we have access to the contract? That would be nice. It would also be nice if there was an escape clause—since the conference wasn’t run in the most competent sense, perhaps the legal framework is also poor.
It did seem wise to approve an exit-fee hike contingent on the accession of new schools. All three arbiters may have saved themselves a cool $5 million with that decision.
Cuse and Pitt
let be known they were withdrawing prior to the hike and unless Navy/Air Force join tonight before WVU leaves officially, WVU will not be subject to the extra $5 mil…but there is always the possibility of paying more (possibly even more than $5 Mil) to avoid the 27 month wait clause…that remains to play out
This is great
now my twitter feed won’t be clogged by all the wvu to ??? rumors. Big 12 football and basketball should be a great fit for the Mounties. Gotta say I was never too excited about the SEC basketball tourney, but if you can play Kansas and K-State et al it helps ease the pain of no more Big East tournament in the Garden. Also, being in a conference where it’s not completely up to WVU to meet the BCS AQ criteria will be nice.
Football is king down here and don't you forget it!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
We are pretty decent at the game you call "foot-baw"
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Oct 25, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Foo-Baw
Texans can’t pronounce T’s or L’s. Ther ya go
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Thanks
See you in Austin. Oh, and welcome to Morgantown!
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Oct 25, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear Austin has some nice ladies. Judging from your pics of cheerleaders, this seems accurate. Can you confirm, my friend?
Well, I married a cheerleader that I thought was pretty cute. She is rather high maintenance though. :-)
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
something about the state
had to ask a texan friend if my impression of texas women was a figment of my imagination. he said yes, they are a breed of wholesome, robust beauty unto themselves. i’ve never forgotten that about the place. it really is like its own country. hope to make it down again.
Did he mention they also like hunting, fishing and guns?
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Oct 26, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Having sat in the student section
at DKR, it’s actually harder to find a meh looking girl (not a bad looking girl, I couldn’t find any of those) than it is to find a good looking girl, and then there are some complete stunners.
TEXAS FIGHT
Congrats,wish you all were SEC bound.
But a major upgrade,more loot,and better recruiting.Holgo is building a good program,just need a little time. Roll Tide. Logan WV/Alabama blood in my veins.
RBR resident Dogcaller.
by Crimsoncaller on Oct 25, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Welcome to the conference.
But be sure you don’t fall under the Bevo spell and submit to his will. Can’t wait to see if its Martin or Huggins that strokes out first at the game in Wichita.
Stram#1 - are you a Missouri guy?
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I like the cut of your jib
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Oct 25, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We're happy to have you
Welcome aboard!
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
Report that Notre Dame wants to move its non-football sports to Big 12
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1283801
If that were to happen, I would be pissed!
I seriously doubt that would happen
but if it did most people in the Big 12 would be cool with it since the television contract is coming up for renewal in six years anyway and they are holding out hope that they would finally cave and join the conference in football as well. As much as you hate Notre Dame, if they did join in ALL sports eventually you would definitely want to be a part of that conference. With them, Bevo and Oklahoma you could start printing money.
Make them pay for the privilege of doing so...
otherwise you will get used like the BE and 18 years later there will be no commitment. Let them stay in the Catholic Basketball League and take the consequencies.
I agree, but trust in UT's AD DeLoss Dodds
The man doesn’t mess around and he thinks BIG. He isn’t likely to let ND play us for fools and be used like the Big East. We all saw that result.
ND is also on decline and they seem to be a diminishing asset. The shiny is a bit worn. They need a shot in the arm that joining the new Big XII train could bring. There may be some concessions since Texas and Big XII have valued some degree of independence (which of course lead to the current issues) but ND could fit in somehow but there will be football included. I could see something working out with ND and BYU.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Let's be honest, if they do join a conference
the B1G is still slobbering all over them and it’s the most likely destination for them if they do go anywhere, even though the Big 12 is arguably stronger than pretty much any conference but the SEC most years.
TEXAS FIGHT
Congrads WVU
We don’t agree on much, but as previously said, we can agree that the BE is/was a horribly managed conference, and we can ride out the train together. Now, us 2 and Cuse need to get our lawyer teams together and figure out how to make this our last year in the BE.
I will buy you guys all a beer tonight.
Hoping the Brawl continues.
If both schools want to (and it appears they do), it will happen. It’s just too good to give up.
In never blamed Pitt or Syracuse for doing what I advocated for WVU – getting out of the Big East.
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Oct 25, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that
I really do hope the Backyard Brawl continues as well. College football is built on these rivalries, and it wouldn’t be good for Pitt, WVU or college football in general if the series did not continue.
Given this momentous news, I am interested in what school would make out the better for recruiting (Pitt or WVU) since they do compete with each other highly in the same recruiting areas. My take is that Pitt wins out since WVU is a little bit geographically isolated in their new conference, but we can save this discussion for another day. Right now, just glad to be out of the Big East.
WVU recruits western PA but not to the degree it does Maryland (Baltimore especially) and south FL. I think that WVU will end up w/ the recruiting edge as we’ll see more kids from Texas in Morgantown given the exposure to the new conference. Pitt won’t see a major change in their recruiting footprint.
Holgerson having ties to Houston and Okie Lite
Almost certainly he has some good recruiting connections in Texas. As a Longhorn I don’t really like that, but we are happy to have WVu in the confernece because you play your games on the field.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Could argue the exact opposite as well
It is really hard to say. The problem is that WVU is now geographically more isolated and in a small state populace wise. They won’t be able to recruit the areas of Maryland as well, because there are no longer any conference affiliates in that region, and same thing for the state of Florida as the Big 12 has no connections there. However, WVU will be able to recruit Texas better. Only time will really tell what effect this has on WVU recruiting, but the Holgerson ties in the Big 12 region are definitely a plus.
WVU has never relied on just one state...
Other than Florida, our team is made up of 2 & 3 star recruits from a wide variety of east coast states. Playing against Texas, Oklahoma and in a big time football conference will make WVU a more attractive option than playing in the ACC would.
Now basketball is another story altogether. WVU loses substantially in that department, as recruits will no longer be playing in the big east coast cities like New York, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, D.C. and the Carolinas. Huggins will have a real challenge getting b-ballers from the east coast to sign up for that.
by Mountaineer Chuck on Oct 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree on basketball but not on football
We will save the recruiting discussion for another day, as it really does pale to the over-arching news of the day. It’s a momentous day for college sports in WVU, assuming that Missouri does leave the Big 12 which seems like a certainty.
Both Yahoo and Sportsline are saying the acceptance is contingent, but ESPN is not. Who knows what to believe. The fact that it’s 9:16 pm Eastern already and there is no official report out of WVU tells me that it is contingent.
I LOVE BEING IN THE BIG 12 AND OUT OF THE BIG EAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t wait for my first trip to Austin!!!!
by EatSchmittPitt35 on Oct 25, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
TCU in Fort Worth/Dallas also
They are a bit more conservative than Austinites, but still a chance to have plenty of fun in Big D. Heck, I’m in Houston and looking forward to games in Dallas area again.
TCU vs. WVu will be a great game too.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Alright, site administrators!
Time to change the tagline on the front page! No more votes of confidence for the Big Least!
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 25, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
If West Virginia were flattened out, it would be bigger than Texas
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
LOL - damn
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Truth
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 26, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
This is welcome news. Although I still wish Missouri would just say what they’re doing and leave it at that.
I also feel bad for the remaining Big East schools who are essentially innocent victims in a money-war. Hopefully they all find a new home since I can’t imagine schools voluntarily joining the Big East now.
Sigh of relief...and
I feel our alignment with a “real” conference now makes WVU a “final destination” for good coaches instead of being viewed as a “stepping stone.” Granted, we have some great people on staff now that have made WVU their career, but we have seen some good young coaches move through here pretty fast, too. I think that maybe in the back of Holgo’s mind that WVU may not have been a career place for him, but now that is subject to change. Just my opinion, curious to hear your thoughts
by CaptainMorgantown on Oct 25, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
I think that is a definite possibility, but it remains to be seen how WVU will perform in the Big 12. I think if they can strengthen recruitment and stay competitive with programs like Oklahoma, your scenario is all the more plausible. I do not think all current schools in the Big 12 are destination programs, however.
We should also take Louisville and cincinnati
Get friendly and close to Notre Dame in the process
by fracas on Oct 25, 2011 9:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Absolutely - This could be very well the real hidden advantage to joining the Big XII
I feel our alignment with a "real" conference now makes WVU a "final destination" for good coaches instead of being viewed as a "stepping stone."
I know that West Virginia is a small state, but my GOD the coaches have the whole state to themselves, not to mention the surrounding states. A quality coach will use this to his advantage in the arena of recruiting.
I’m sure winter can be a great change of pace for you guys that are used to it – but you don’t have to play football in sleet and snow and have to wear things like an overcoat or muffler (what are those things, anyway?).
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Congrats, West Virginia fans!
Hopefully, my Broncos will be joining you soon.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Welcome aboard!
This Baylor alum welcomes you to the Big 12. I have family in West Virginia and look forward to visiting your stadium.
Now about Louisville & Cincinnati: The Big 12’s current Tier 1 & 2 television contracts are for 10 teams. The Tier 1 contract is up for negotiation and takes effect in 2015. I expect the negotiation will be for 12 teams and will include Louisville & Cincinnati. We know that West Virginia needs some of its traditional rivals for the conference expansion to be stable and successful. Plus it will give us a nice wedge between the Big 10, ACC & SEC. Two can play this expansion game. The Big 12 is only 15 years old and new on the block. We’re learning from our mistakes and are adjusting accordingly.
FYI, Nebraska, Colorado, & Missouri wanted out of the Big 8 before the Big 12 ever came into existence. (The Big 8 almost collapsed in the early ‘90s). A&M planned to go to the SEC when the Southwest Conference folded but Texas politicians prevented that from happening. So what you are seeing from these 4 schools has really nothing to do with TU and the Big 12. Texas University makes a convenient whipping boy because they have a serious attitude problem. You’ll learn to appreciate them in time.
Yeh Booooy
Cats sleeping with dogs, Pitt and West Virginia fans agreeing with eachother!! This is a great day. Looking forward to the new rivalries.
by Midwest Mountaineer on Oct 25, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Yep
We can have a friendly drink over our departures of the BE at the Backyard Brawl this year. Now what we need you WVU people to do is convince the Big 12 to take Louisville and Cincy so the BE officially folds, and we won’t have to worry about this 27 month thing.
geek observation
all this peace, love and happiness between possibly former and definitely future rivals kinda reminds me of the extended celebration scene at the end of “return of the jedi.”
(this in no way condones what george lucas did in his re-editing of the original trilogy. may never forgive him for that.)
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
by LookinForIt on Oct 26, 2011 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Welcome, 'Neers. That's what you call yourselves, right?
As you can see, there are lots of us UT fans. But the fan bases of the rest of the Big 12 teams are all pretty cool, too. I particularly like Kansas State fans and Baylor fans.
I’ve always liked West Virginia and rooted for you guys. Your addition will actually make the Big 12 a more difficult and competitive conference. I look forward to battling it out with y’all in coming years. Although it might be best to wait as long as possible to join because we’re going to be pretty devastatingly good next year, in large part because of this gentleman.
I’m just messing with y’all.
Maybe we couldn’t be any more different; we’re urban while you’re rural, we’re a bunch of treehuggers while you’re blowing up a bunch of mountains for coal, but I think we’ll get along just fine.
I’m excited about the basketball side of it all.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Nice
Glad to see WVU isn’t going to get caught on the sinking ship. Would have loved to see them come to the ACC though. But this is a great move.
We can celebrate again!
Yayyyyyyyyyy!!
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
That looks like my neighbor.
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
Do you REALLY believe this? Gotcha again - AHAHAHAHA...suckers!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
LOL - That proves it then, you must be in.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Welcome (again) to the Big XII and welcome to Austin where our intent is to stomp you into a mudhole. :-)
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Heyyyyyyy..
:(
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank God.
"that place (West Virginia) laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
After all the bullshit Cards fans were spewing towards us on Card Chronicles the last few days...
… this victory tastes even sweeter.
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2011/10/28/2520499/cbs-big-12-votes-to-take-only-west-virginia#comments
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
there is no need to go over there
and do what those Cuse clowns did over here this week
by WVUIE97 on Oct 28, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I don't plan on it.
I just enjoy reading it. Posted it up there for the same.
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
by Jonathan. on Oct 28, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm
trying to be nice lol.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 28, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Screw it
they are still whining lol. Annoying sore losers.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I went over and rubbed it in a little. Really though I hope Louisville and Cinn get to come with us.
Welcome!!!
Very excited to have you guys on board. Looking forward to a trip out to Morgantown. Also, looking forward to seeing Dana in the Big 12 once more. Guns Up!
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Once I see the press conference I will be happy.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
This is just f...ing funny!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Joe Schad reports
that Jim Tressel knew about this back in April
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"I got the machine gun blues" Social D
Canal Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Happy
that it’s finally all over. I hope UL and Cincy can come along at some point to remove some of the sting out of the travel.
You're right
The conference can’t be stable over the long haul if it doesn’t add some old familiar faces you love to hate.
K-State grad and fan here.
I’m glad to see WVU join the fold. When things get going, I would sincerely urge you to make a road trip to Manhattan for a football game. You seem like the kind of fanbase that would really appreciate Aggieville. Approximately 20 bars and 2 liquor stores in a 2-block-by-2-block area.
What’s your party scene like?
What’s your party scene like?
Heh
Here’s the complete list of Princeton Review’s top party schools for 2012:
1. Ohio University, Athens, Ohio
2. University of Georgia, Athens, Ga.
3. University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
4. University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
5. University of California Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, Calif.
6. West Virginia University, Morgantown, W. Va.
7. Penn State University, University Park, Pa.
8. Florida State University, Tallahassee, Fla.
9. University of Florida, Gainesville, Fla.
10. University of Texas, Austin, Texas
Princeton Review’s Top Party Schools for 2011
1. University of Georgia
2. Ohio University
3. Penn State University
4. West Virginia University
5. University of Mississippi
6. University of Texas at Austin
7. University of Florida
8. University of California – Santa Barbara
9. University of Iowa
Etc, etc.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 28, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
IOWA? The University of IOWA? Party school?
You’re shitting me!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I'm not asking so much about party rankings.
I want to know what kind of partying? Are we talking about a great bar district? Rocking house parties with lax enforcement of noise ordinances and fire codes? Big public bashes?
Everything.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 28, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome aboard from the Jayhawks.
Solid addition in both major sports and glad to see the Big 12 working to solidify the conference from both angles.
Questions, Comments? email me at denverjhawk@hotmail.com
Card Fan Here
Congrats, WVU. Gonna miss the basketball and football (pre-Kragthorpe) games. Hopefully the rumors of the Big XII staying at 10 aren’t true. Hate to see our young rivalry go down in flames. That said, I have complete faith in our AD, Tom Jurich, to get us out of the sinking ship known as the big east. I was hoping to go to the Big XII back when Colorado and Nebraska left and everybody thought I was crazy. Huge upgrade in FB and not much fall off in BB. Could still happen, but doesn’t look good. Maybe if Rick Pitino would just STFU….
The Big XII will go to 12...
…eventually. Maybe not this year. But it WILL happen at some point. I think that’s UL’s only real option as far as AQ, anyway.
I know a lot of your fans want the ACC, but that won’t happen. Last time I looked Louisville is tied with WVU in academic rankings, and that alone will keep them out.
If the SEC ever goes to 16, Louisville could potentially be a target but I think UK would veto you, but now that WVU is off the table, it’s more likely. However, if it takes a few years, if they went after WVU, I could see us bolting for geography’s sake.
Louisville will be Big XII bound. I fully believe the Big XII took us first to take us off the trading block, as we are one of the more valuable “free agents” and so the SEC wouldn’t look toward us in the future. Louisville is next. Adding Louisville and CIncinnati would be great for the conference and give West Virginia regional rivals.
"that place (West Virginia) laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 28, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the vote of confidence...
Saw you had posted on the chronicle before McConnellgate and said basically the same thing. A couple a$$hole Card fans got outta line with you, so good to see you have no hard feelings. Anyway, hope you’re right. SEC makes too much sense for it to happen though. Aside from the little boys in blue at uk and Florida, SEC basketball is pretty awful. Every few years they have 1 other team step up to mediocrity but that’s about it. PS, thanks for sending uk home a couple years ago in the tourney. Made my March.
Ha, made my march too.
I have an uncle I love dearly that lives in Louisville and is a die hard Cards fan. I’ll never root against them, unless they’re playing us of course.
Fact is Louisville is too valuable to waste away in a conference without an AQ. The Big XII wants U of L, don’t doubt that. Expansion will continue, as well. The Big XII will go to 12, it’s just a matter of time.
I think they preferred U of L immediately, but took WVU as they are a potential SEC target if they go to 16/if the world ends and Mizzou, in fact, stays. (Though that would be a great scenario, forcing them to go to 12 now that they’ve made the committment to WVU.)
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Oct 28, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What's it going to take?
What’s it going to take to get the Big East to release WV so they can play next season? Maybe if the Big 12 takes Louisville now the Big East football program will fall apart and with it the (ridiculously long) waiting period. We want to play WV NOW!
The Big XII will now wait and see how many teams join the Big East and when they do - bye bye Louisville.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
A question came up on BON
What would the weather be like in Morgantown for baseball and softball games?
Then I thought – does WVY even HAVE a baseball team? And I thought, again so what? UTdoesn’t have wrestling or hockey puckey.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
We
have a decent baseball team. Presumably would improve being in a new conference and all.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 29, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, thar you go! (you need to get used to this)
You see how little we really know about WVU? We heard about the couches though, but only because it was so bizarre. And we STILL don’t get it.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Nothing
to get. It’s what we do. HAHA.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Oct 29, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
2012 Big 12 football schedule
With the Big 12 already having their 2012 schedule out (based on a 10-team conference) depending if we fill the UM or A&M slot, or potential schedule looks like this:
Missouri’s slotOklahoma
K State
@ Iowa St
@ Ok ST.
Tex A&M – TCU
Baylor
@ Texas
@ Texas Tech
Kansas
Texas A&M slot @ Ok St
Texas Tech
@ Baylor
Iowa St
@ Mo. @TCU
Oklahoma
K State
@ Kansas
@ Texas
Ether way, what a great schedule of home games, especially if we keep 1 or 2 of our rivalry games, and the planned OOC games with Fl State/MIchigan state. And the road trip opportunities!! Whatever needs to be done to get out for next year needs to happen.
So, either way you get the state of Oklahoma at home.
And, either way, you get UT at Austin. That will be a good trip.
A trip to Waco for Baylor, however, will be meh.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
My bad - either way you get OU at home.
And K-State as well.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
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