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Chuck Landon: Private Eye Investigation Into The WVU-Marshall Series

At first, it was kind of sad.  Now it's just hilarious that Marshall University's preeminent beat writer has nothing better to pontificate on than the WVU-Marshall series.  I guess that's what you get when your team is irrelevant by the end of September every year and the only chance you have to garner any attention whatsoever is to continue playing a series that benefits your school at the expense of WVU, the State of West Virginia, the national debt, and a small orphanage somewhere in Liberia.

In case you missed the article (which you may have, considering it was too irrelevant to even make WVUIE97's expansive link dump in the morning S/T), everyone's favorite Huntington Herald-Dispatch sportswriter Chuck Landon is back on the streets -- magnifying glass and fingerprint powder in hand -- trying to figure out just how, and why, WVU is trying to put its series with Marshall out of its misery to an end.  I still can't figure out exactly what ol' Chucky is trying to get at, so I decided to call him up on his batphone and engage him in some serious debate:

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Country Roads:  Mr. Landon, what are your thoughts on the recently announced game between WVU and BYU set for FedEx field in 2016?

Chuck_mediumThere is one reason the Mountaineers chose to sign a game with BYU for the 2016 season. WVU is doing everything it possibly can to book non-conference games for the 2014 season and beyond.

CR:  Well, that's true, Chuck.  Considering WVU has one opening left for 2014 and two each in 2015 and 2016, it would help WVU to actually play a full schedule of games during those years.  You see, WVU can actually win the games it schedules, which helps it earn money and gain national prestige.  But what do money and national prestige have to do with a school like Marshall?

Chuck_medium There is nothing the Mountaineers would like better than to be able to shrug their collective shoulders and say, "Sorry, Marshall, there's no room in the Mountaineer Inn."

CR:  Actually, there are a lot of things the Mountaineers would like better than that.  For example, winning the Big East, being ranked in the Top 25, attending Bike Week in Morgantown, and eating an entire Husson's extra large pizza.  But yeah, I'd like to be able to say that to Marshall too.  So how does WVU go about pulling off such a devious scheme?

Chuck_mediumThat philosophy is so obvious one source with knowledge of the situation characterized WVU's mindset as "actively looking" for non-conference games to schedule.

CR:  By jove, you're right!  I can't believe I never saw the link before.  Actively looking to schedule non-conference games and screwing Marshall at the same time!  Genius!  I wish WVU would have dreamed up this philosophy earlier so we could have been actively looking for non-conference games more often!  I'm sure actively looking is a foreign concept to you, though, Chuck.  When you want a date, you just sit back and relax while the women flock to those gold, flowing locks of manliness draped of your shoulders.  But the rest of us, we have to actively look for women to date.  I guess that says something about WVU, that it would need to actively look for games to play, rather than wait for teams to line up at its door for a home-and-home.  What's a poor, helpless school like Marshall to do when its dream date is actively looking for other games??

Chuck_mediumAnd with each passing day it becomes more and more obvious that only one person will be able to bring equitable closure to this controversy.

CR:  Who can the righteous people of the world call upon to right this intolerable injustice?

Chuck_mediumManchin.

CR:  Wait, you mean . . . Joe "Superman" Manchin?  The Great Negotiator?  The one person who can see right from wrong and yet has the sheer political will to make certain that the stubborn, selfish, irrational leaders in Morgantown like Oliver Luck and Jim Clements don't get away with trying to make WVU football better?  Certainly he has better things to do with his time than worry about a piddly little series of football games!

Chuck_mediumIt's a shame that cooler, more reasonable heads won't prevail in this Marshall-WVU series renewal saga. That's the way it should be done, instead of the governor of West Virginia having no choice but to get involved.

CR:  A crying shame!  To think that such an important matter---one that takes precedence far and above environmental regulations, tort reform, and balancing the budget---cannot be resolved by the parties whom it involves and demands the intervention of the great political forces of our state.  If WVU could only see the benefit it could reap by eschewing marquee non-conference games against quality opponents that garner money and prestige, how much better off we would all be.

Frankly, it's inconceivable to me how a school could be so selfish as to want to maximize its potential while allowing---nay, oppressing---its poor little orphan brother to be left by the wayside, unable to fill its stadium, gain national exposure, or fill its coffers without WVU's help.  And if WVU isn't going to voluntarily hold itself back from greatness because it views Marshall as a charity case, justice demands that the governor step in and make sure that those (like Marshall) who can't or won't earn their way to respectability be given a hand by those (like WVU) who can and have.  If Marshall is going be average, everyone else should be forced to be average along with it.  The masses demand mediocrity!  Power to the people of Marshall!

Viva la revolution!

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Just say No!

It was so simple, like the jitterbug, it just plum evaded me.

I like the taste of danger most of all ~ Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Another great piece of jounalism by Chuck Landon.

Chuck Landon lives in an alternate reality where WVU is pure evil. If you sat down with Chuck he would tell you that Major Harris was the second gunman on the grassy knoll and that WVU administrators were responsible for for 9/11.

His articles make little to no sense and are constantly filled with misinformation. First, he writes that HCBS and Doc didn’t meet after the game. Now he writes that they did meet but Doc was not happy about the “quality of the handshake.”

He is mad at Oliver Luck for doing his job and scheduling QUALITY opponents? This series makes no sense for WVU or the state. If both Marshall and WVU had home games that weekend there would be more money coming into the state.

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Sep 28, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I have given a name to my pain

and that name is Landon.

There’s a reason I don’t even bother checking the H-town paper for links. EVER.

by WVUIE97 on Sep 28, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I read that article

while I was taking a huge Landon this morning.

by TheBlueLot on Sep 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff.

Landon’s articles are hilarious. I don’t even think Marshall fans take him seriously anymore.

by The 25314 on Sep 28, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

How could you take him seriously?


That’s esteemed Marshall beat writer Chuck McGill on the right. And, I don’t know what that is on the left.

by Dr. Charley West on Sep 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

McGill looks like he put on some weight.

Must have been that industrial-sized jar of mayo he ate in 2005.

by Country Roads on Sep 28, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was like reading a Bob Smizik piece when is ranting about how Pirates ownership isn't interested in winning

but making profits, even though winning more often whould bring more people to PNC Park which would increase reavenue making the Pirates ownership more money. That and Bob Nutting hasn’t actually been payed by the Pirates Baseball Club since he took the team over in 2007 when he loaned the team $20 Mil. to save the team.

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"I’ve been beer-cussed!" Steelfever
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Sep 28, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait….are you defending the Pirates?

by The 25314 on Sep 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

why yes I am

you got a problem with that

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"I’ve been beer-cussed!" Steelfever
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Sep 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, i’m just in awe. like are you being serious or is it sarcasm? the pirates have had 18 consecutive losing seasons and serve as a farm team to real major league teams. the 2010 pirates was one of the top 5 worst teams i’ve ever seen. other small market teams such as the reds, twins, a’s, padres, brewers, and marlins have all found a way to have at least one winning season in that time. there is no defending the pirates. you don’t have to spend a lot of money to be good, you just have to be good at spending your money.

by The 25314 on Sep 28, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which we haven't until now

we stopped handing out $17 Million contracts to Jeromy Burnitz and started spending $10 mil. on the draft and international signing, the same way the other teams you listed are

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"I’ve been beer-cussed!" Steelfever
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Sep 28, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please Don't Feed The Animals...

WVPiratesfan, because the 25314 doesn’t understand that the problem with baseball isn’t teams like the Pirates. It is teams like the Yankees, who net 270 million a year from the tv network they own, while the Pirates make 18.7 million from their measly contract. And yet, the Pirates are expected to be competitive. Of course, it is an easy joke to make for our esteemed Zipcode…yeah, the Pirates just suck. When, in actuality, what sucks, is baseball’s system. The Steelers don’t suck. The Pens don’t suck. Same city. Know why? Because those organizations get the same amount of television money as everyone else, their leagues have caps and minumums, and, hence, the quality of the teams is determined on a level playing field where each team has the same wherewithal, and the GM’s and coaches’ decisions make or break the teams. Not the case in baseball….where the rich just pirate, pardon the pun, the great players from the less unfortunate teams. See the Rays, this year..with their paltry payroll and bevy of talent? Well, in 4 years they will all be playing for major market teams.

Ick….…..I hope whatever it is that you have isn’t catching, Zip, because just reading your recent stuff makes me feel like I am coming down woth some downer syndrome…..

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excuses. The Minnesota Twins were nearly contracted in 2000. They’ve now been the dominate team of the AL Central for all of the 2000’s. Why? They’ve lost Torri Hunter and Johan Santana and numerous other star players who signed with the deep pocket teams. It’s beacuse they invest wisely, lock down players early for less money, make smart trades, draft well. When a star player leaves, they expect the team to rally and replace him. In the same time period, the Yankees spent over 200 million a year with but one World Series.

I’m a Reds fan. I know about small market teams. But that’s not an excuse. Once the Reds stopped trying to win by competing in the free agent market in which they had no chance, they became creative and innovative in maximizing their dollar.

But keep defending the Pittsburgh Pirates beacuse the world is just unfair and everything is lined up against them. Apparently, losing is never the responsibility of your favorite team.

by The 25314 on Sep 29, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Francisco Cabrera...

basehit to left field, Sid Bream rounding third, the throw from Bonds, Bream slides….SAFE SAFE BRAVES WIN BRAVES WIN BRAVES WIN

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Sep 29, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

FIfth....

…that is not nice, man! I was holding World Series tickets to games 1,2 and 7 in my hand when that happened. My brother and I cried. Really. I still dislike Sean McDonough to this day, and that bastard Cabrera didn’t even have the decency to go on and become a serviceable major league player, let a lone a star.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Since You Are A Reds Fan...

…you ought to be agreeing with me. Small-market teams are never going to be able to compete long-term with teams in larger population centers, and an even distribution of wealth would solve a lot of problems. You are a master obfuscator. You don’t think baseball has a flawed economic system? Or at the very least, an economic model vastly inferior to the NFL, NHL, and NBA, all of which have caps and minimums? Come on.

And I never said the Pirates don’t piss me off. A couple years back Fortune or Forbes, can’t remember which, revealed that the Pirates were the fourth or fifth most-profitable team in baseball, which angered me because it speaks to the fact that the ownership didn’t care about winning. Why would they? They were making money. And “losing is never the responsibility of your favorite team…” Newsflash, but what are you talking about? I think WVU is 12 games over .500 the last three years. That isn’t quite losing, now is it?

I will say, this baseball discussion points out just how irrelevant Chuck Landon is, doesn’t it? He is so uninteresting we can’t even keep on task…we start talking baseball?

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball’s system isn’t fair, but it’s not flawed. I’m Those with the most efficiency, innovation, ingenuity and creativity will rise to the top. I think small markets can compete. It’s not as easy as it is for the Yankees, but that just means they have to work harder and avoid mistakes. It’s more difficult to win at WVU than other places, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be done. We just have to work harder and more efficiently and avoid mistakes. We have to make our dollar go further. We have to get more out of our players than other teams. And while it is difficult, it can be done.

by The 25314 on Sep 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree...

but I would like it if everyone had the same access to the dollars, because then it would solely be about making the right decisions with your allotment.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

What do you mean? I am talking about a system like the NFL has…all the TV money in one pot, and redistributed to each team…how is that NASCAR? I mean, I don’t follow it, so I don’t know.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

theoretically

NASCAR is set up (in theory) for every team to have the same equipment on the track, other than engine mfg brands (ie Ford, Chevy, Toyota) and then its supposed to come down to driver ability. Again, this is theory, NASCAR doesn’t really work this way. Maybe the analogy doesn’t fit.

One thing though, there is revenue sharing to a degree in MLB (see the luxury taxes for teams like Boston and NY). Problem is that there is no requirement for those teams reaping the dispersal of those taxes to re-invest it in their team, especially player payroll. Teams like Pittsburgh just pocket it, increasing their profit margin.

by WVUIE97 on Sep 29, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pinko Commy rag!!!!!!

by The 25314 on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah! Say that dirty word....

“Socialism!” “Go on, Bulworth…got to be a spirit! Can’t be no ghost!”

Sorry but free-market theories do not apply to pro sports…they aren’t the real world, if only because of anti-trust exemptions..so I have no problem with the redistribution of wealth from richer teams to poorer teams…

And you are right about the Pirates pocketing the dough, which, when it came to light really pissed me off. That is why there is such a necessity for a spending cap, and a spending minimum.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 29, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ick...

no offense.

Go Rays.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Sep 30, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention Joe Nathan and Justin Morneau have been injured most of the year, or that Francisco Liriano missed 2 years with Tommy John. They kept winning.

by The 25314 on Sep 29, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s easy to say Pat White and Steve Slaton are gone so we can never be great again, but that is just garbage.

by The 25314 on Sep 29, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats because they started building in 2000

to have the depth in the org. that they have, we have been doing this for 3 years, in three years we have gone from the 29th Ranked farm system to somewhere around the top 15. It takes time and we are getting there, just look at the last month of the season

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"I’ve been beer-cussed!" Steelfever
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Sep 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

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