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MRI Reveals Torn ACL
ESPN is reporting that Da’Sean suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament last night.
I wish him a speedy recovery and hope this has no bad effect on his NBA draft stock.
Thank you, Da’ for everything.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
De'Jaun Blair doesn't have ACLs so I don't see how this affect his Draft stock too much
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
A few thoughts
1. Da’Sean will be ok. It’s just been released that he has torn ACL, MCL sprain and couple of bone bruises. ACL reconstruction is light years ahead of what it once was (as evidenced by players such as Rod Woodson coming back to play in 3 months during Super Bowl XXX). Butler is a class kid w/ a good head on his shoulders. He will stay humble and use the injury as motivation.
2. Bob Huggins made such pundits, like Rick Reilly, look clueless w/ the way he handled that injury. Not only did he appropriately berate the official for a questionable call, he then crouched to console his player……a player, remember, who was recruited by Beilein……that certainly doesn’t feel like a “renegade” coach who doesn’t care about his players, etc.
3. This team made it a heckuva run this year. While I am absolutely shocked that Duke beat us (I thought we’d win rather easily for some reason-thought they couldn’t compete w/ our athletes but they could and did), the team played their minds out, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
I love Huggins style of basketball. It fits the Mountain State and the Big East conference perfectly.
I loved Huggs before this happened
I want to marry him now. That was such a touching moment, like a father consoling his child, give him a lifetime contract, he has won me over.
KEN
I second the lifetime contract
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
This shows the character of both men
If anybody doubted the genuine love and respect (and some of these idiots are named elsewhere in this thread) between coach and players, there is no doubt now. If my son were talented enough to make the team, I would want him to play for Huggs. Calipari and his ilk can take a hike!
bc_bc
You can hear
Da’Sean saying
“I’m sorry coach” or at least that’s what I hear.
Even in the midst of his own pain, De’sean feels worse for his team and his coach. Amazing. What a kid.
Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 5, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Message for the Team
Does the loss hurt today? Absolutely. And it will for a while.
Am I disappointed? No. This team gave West Virginia everything they had and more.
I won’t forget Huggs cradling his player for a long, long time. Today, I couldn’t be prouder to be called a Mountaineer.
I, along w/ the team,
am certainly disappointed, especially how we played against Duke, because we’re better than that. Does it diminish what they did and lower the respect and admiration they have from fans, etc.?? Not a bit.
Reilly Is A Dipshit
…just another former towel-boy turned journalist. In a just world, Reilly and Mike Lupica ought to be marooned somewhere together.
I feel so bad that Da’Sean’s last game was one in which he was injured. I hope that he gets his shot at the next level, but even if he does, this sad event probably cost him quite a bit of money.
I am pretty good with words. But I cannot seem to find exactly the right ones to convey how much I despise Duke. Since the 80’s, it seems, the Blue Devil lineup is always populated with the douchiest humans in the U.S. Consider this off-the-top-of-my-head list: Danny Ferry, Christian Laettner, JJ Redick, Shane Battier, Cherokee Parks, Trajan Langdon, Corey Maggette and now EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of the current lineup, but especially that weasel Schuyler.
So what if they snivelled their way past us. It was still a great run. I will miss this team. They really endeared themselves, I think, to all us in the last 15 games.
GO BUTLER!
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
For God's sakes....
It is SCHEYER, not Schuyler. If you are going to be one of the people who hate Duke simply because “DUKE” is on the jersey, at least know the names of the players.
The Duke hate is funny. Never understood it, never will.
yeah, whoops...
…like I give a shit about getting the douchebag’s name right. If you don’t understand all the Duke hate, and never will, I think I know in which camp I will find you…
…just call it even for all the innumerable broadcasters that have brutalized Mountaineer player names over the years. Case in point…No’EL Devine, not nole. Day’Shawn, not Duhsean. Or, how about Kuhlichla…not Kilichee…
…unbelievable.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
I was not a WV basketball fan before.
But dangit because of Huggins being the man he was last night I am. The best, and worst moment of the tournament. I’ll respect WV and Huggins from now on for sure.
Awesome
Last night provides me with one event with two different images that I will never forget in my whole life. The first is losing to the Pukies. They hit every shot, we couldn’t get to the right place at the right time on defense. They beat us fair and square. I hope we build on this and I suspect we will.
The second image is when Da’Sean got hurt and our awesome coach Bob Huggins got down comforting him and wiping his tears. As he got us you could see the tears in Bob’s eyes. That made me a little teary eyed myself. At that moment I was proud to be a Mountaineer fan. No….we didn’t win the game, but we came up huge in the game of life. That was awesome. I’ll never forget that moment. I love being a West Virginian and a Mountaineer fan.
Could there have been a better moment in a loss?
I’m hard-pressed to come up with one. And I’m kinda glad I was there and didn’t have to see it up close and personal on TV, or I would’ve sobbed like a baby.
Loved this team. What a great year, easily the best in my lifetime. And with a team that rivaled the 2005 group in terms of personality. Thanks for a great run, fellas.
Lastly, as hard as it is to take that loss given the way we struggled and Duke played their best game of the year, I feel like we are only scratching the surface of what Huggs can do at WVU. We may never make the Final Four again (although I think we will), but we will have talent, and we will compete. Thus, we will succeed.
It's a shame
that the image of Da’Sean and Huggs will be a one shining moment image. Not what either would wish for. A loss is something we can get over. The loss of Da’ in the game was monumental. You could see it on the whole team. This whole team cares about each other. From the guy at the end of the bench to Huggs to the ball boys to the support staff.
Again it’s a terrible image that will last, but maybe out of it idiots around the world who have been down on WVU, West Virginia, and Bob Huggins will take a step back and rethink their negatives.
I wish all the team the best of luck. We’ll miss the seniors, but we will always remember them for their hard work and the excitement they brought to us all season long.
I just hope that Duke shot their load last night, so Butler can wipe them out. My hatred for Duke went up more and I didn’t even think that was possible.
by BurghMountaineer on Apr 4, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
worst day of da'sean's life
his glorious wvu career ended
he lost in the final four
his basketball future is in doubt
not sure there is anyone less deserving of that happening to him. heartbreaking
Fanshaw is right.
I guessed when Huggs was on the floor with Da Sean, he may well have said don’t worry about anything else right now. I need you to be helped up and hobble, if you must, off this floor. The sight of which could break either way – we come out like a bunch of deep woods mad ass hornets and close the score up or be deflated seeing him being carried away on the cart.
I agree with Fanshaw, Duke’s attitude is to basketball as Alabama’s is to football – “it’s our birthright, we belong here, this is ours” B/S. Many of those names Fanshaw listed were snivelling cry babies when things didn’t go their way. Duke, you have carved yourself a spot on the list of schools we don’t care for. Say hello to Pitt and Notre Dame.
You are speaking for yourself
on the Duke and ND hatred, not WVU…….Most of us don’t care about those schools.
I must admit
I’m not the typical fan who “hates Duke, despises Notre Dame, can’t stand the Yankees”, etc. I tend to not focus much anger and disdain towards the opposition but focus energies on loving or despising the moves made by my own squads (Mounties, Pens, Stillers, Buccos). In saying that, I can completely understand why people don’t like those sorts of teams that succeed or have had a long ago history of succeeding (see Notre Dame).
But the one I really never understood was Duke. It’s not just those on this blog, there are thousands others. What is it that really makes you ooze ounces of venom? Is it Dick Vitale’s obsession w/ the Devils? I’m not asking to question your opinions. I simply am wanting to know your thoughts.
I see one of the greatest and most competitive coaches ever, a hard working team that plays very well together, and a clever/respectful fanbase (that gave props to Butler when he was down)…..
If it’s Pitt, I ooze the venom as well!!! But any other college team, I guess I just don’t care enough about them and their past successes.
see this article
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/4/2/1398649/duke-final-four-2010-ncaa-tournament
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 5, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
LoL
This article is about as good as the opinion of most Duke haters.
“Coach K, their players, and the Cameron Crazies are just terrible.” Jesus, is that’s the reason people hate Duke, I’m proud to be a Devil’s basketball fan. I love WVU, I just never thought so many of their fans would stoop to the “UK” level. Say it ain’t so, boys. Say it ain’t so.
Sorry to the both of you
SombodyBuyAustinaSteak and Blank x 2……That article didn’t do anything for me. I got to the 3rd paragraph and realized I had to get a deal done here at work.
Duke is simply irrelevant to this WVU fan (excluding the fact they handed it to us this weekend). It’s an overpriced educational institution that’s an EXCELLENT school, but not required to be quite successful in life. The budget-concious, financially-prudent decision would be to choose an institution like WVU or Ohio State to begin one’s ascent into the horizons that lay ahead.
so many good reasons not to like Duke
but for me it comes down to their smug, entitled fans, for example my coworker who told me today that his favorite part of the game was “when WVU’s player ran into Zoubek and injured himself and they called the foul on the WVU player”
Their fans’ massive egos are only furthered by the mounds of unjust hype their team and their overhyped coach get every year by Dookie V and company.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 5, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Duke SHOULD be relevant to WVU fans
One game in the tournament, and people despise them like they are conference rivals. I know other Duke fans with no WVU biased, and do you think they are still upset and hate and despise WVU for the loss a few years ago when Alexander destroyed us?
Of course not.
I love WVU and West Virginia. I just wish our fans wouldn’t jump on the “We hate Duke for no reason” bandwagon after one loss. UK still hates us for one shot twenty years ago. PLEASE don’t stoop to that. We are SO much better than that.
For the record
I’ve hated Duke…a while, basically since I met their students, toured their campus, dated their girls, listened to their whining, realized that they weren’t, in fact, God’s gift to basketball…or really anything
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny
I think had WVU won that game, Duke hate would be no where to be heard.
But I guess it’s like Katt Williams says….you gotta have haters. And they’re not God’s gift to basketball…..just National Champions.
Maybe in the world wide media
But for me I would still hate Duke, I can respect that they won title and did it well, but my hate is the same, but I guess that makes me a UK fan.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 8, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure Duke is respectful
but they also let you know HOW respectful they are and HOW clever and APPROPRIATE they are and HOW above it all they are. That is why I hate Duke, UNC, really the entire state of North Carolina. I’m from the south, Dad went to Clemson, so I grew up a huge ACC fan, loved Duke, even loved Christian Laettner, then I met some people that went to Duke, (UNC, Davidson, grew up in North Carolina) even dated one, hell I even applied to go to seminary there, but what I couldn’t see then and I see now is the smugness of the entire fanbase (which I used to think I was cool WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL). They believe that Coach K (Dean Smith/Roy Williams) invented basketball or at least perfected it, they believe that he doesn’t cuss or “work” the refs (or if he does he’s just being a good coach) and if other coaches cuss or “work” the refs, they are cheap and low-class.
It’s really about the smugness and arrogance, you didn’t invent basketball, you aren’t the only people that play basketball, you aren’t the only clever fans.
One last thing if you can’t see why someone would hate Duke, you need some real self-analysis maybe even professional therapy. For instance, there are people that think I’m awesome, there are also people that think I’m a HUGE asshole. I get both sides, mainly because I can take it and am emotionally mature enough (or try to be) to accept that maybe there are things I could work on.
Duke you could work on some things.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 5, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?????
I need pro. therapy and self-analysis because I don’t get why people hate Duke???? Sorry, I don’t pay attention to them, like you do…..After listening to people on here, they sound very much like “UVA fan”. WVU fans know that they are compensating for lack of many things and we simply dismiss all of their elitist remarks, etc. I was just surprised to see so many WVU fans that hate Duke….no need for backlash against one who doesn’t have an opinion about them.
you know
there is a reason why i love hockey. when the refs seem tilted, players can and will take matters into thier own hands. that junk on saturday night is a perfect example why basketball, even college ball, will remain third on my favorite sports list. butler will have thier work cut out for them, beating duke is hard enough but beating duke and the officials is more then most teams can handle.
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
That game was CLEARLY
not officiated by a Big East officiating crew. Physical play is permitted in those contests.
Admittedly, it wouldn’t have mattered in that game on Saturday when the opponent shoots 13-25 from 3-pt range.
there is NO SUCH THING as a conference officiating crew anymore
they are ALL independent contractors now
i dont know about you guys
but i felt dirty watching the above episode, not dirty because two grown men were in tears, but dirty because this was a father son moment.
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
Seriously....
…this post and the one above give credence to the reason I read your posts, Oldtime. Right on. If only the Istan-bull could have rolled off the bench to give the black eye Zoobeck (mispelling intentional), broken nose, and fat lip he deserved…. AND…I, too, thought it was a moment (Huggins kneeling over Butler) not meant for television, a moment between people who know, trust, and love one another.
Which, as I alluded to above, begs the question: “who would want Rick Reilly to care?”
And, because I am, in a likelihood, considered as big a douche as anyone on this board, I have been pondering whoever’s comment above that he doesn’t understand the “Duke hate and never will.” I won’t lump the Poo Devils in with Yankees, since there is still some payroll disparity, but let me break it down in this way: Walmart or country store? It is that simple.
I can’t believe that the Mountaineers would have many fans that share similar love for WVU and some other blueblood team. When I meet them – those that adore WVU and say, the Yankees, I am amazed. And put off. Those that love any big market, treasured-history team can’t be anything but bandwagon WVU fans in my book. Because they get their sense of earned superiority from somewhere else. This is probably a longer post subject meant for its own spot elsewhere here…but I don’t really do that kind of thing anymore, so let me say this – My eldest son is playing on a baseball travel team. One of the kids on the team wears a Yankee warm-up suit to every single practice. An authentic Yankee warmup – pinstripes, stirrups, hat. Our team colors are maroon and white. His father screams at his son from the stands at every practice – everything the boy is doing wrong, everything on which he needs to improve, everything that he needs to do to be Derek Jeter. Now, anyone that has a lick of sense, that has been around sports at all, knows that the kids we watch, even at the college level, statistically are 1 in 30,000. At the pro level, it is almost 1-in-1,000,000. Yeah, six zeroes. And I am talking about nine-year olds – kids that haven’t even come close to making throws on a pro-level diamond, and have no idea what a 94-mph slider looks like. This is not to rain on the Little League/Pee Wee Football parade, but rather, to say, wake up. Your kid may be excellent at something, but it is probably not professional sports. Just odds. You can sink the same amount of time, thought, and rage into the lottery with the same results.
Which brings me back to rooting for Duke, the Yankees, etc. The reason that kid is wearing pinstripes is because his father identifies them as winners, even though he told me he has never been a Yankee fan, and only became one in 2001. People who don’t have a geographic reference to the teams for whom they care about are usually pretenders to a winning crown. Some of my best friends are fans of the Dallas Cowboys, the Poo Devils and their arch-nemisis the Tar Heels, the LA Lakers, the Yankees, even the Montreal Canadiens….and almost 100 percent of them have never been near the environs in which those teams play. Know why they root for them? Because those teams are winners. And they want to be associated with a winner.
Call a spade a spade. No real Mountaineer fan could say he is also a Duke fan, in the same way that no real Mountaineer would say he is also a Syracuse fan. Any Mountaineer fan that could claim the Blue Devils either had to live there as a youth, have an absent Dad that loves them, or most likely, became a Duke fan because the Blue Devils buoyed his spirits by winning a lot of times when the Mountaineers were nowhere to be found in the late rounds.
I was raised a Mountaineer fan. A Pirate fan (and times have sucked since ‘92). A Penguin fan (times are good). A Steeler fan (times are good, but Ben, please stop putting yourself in sketchy positions!). And I don’t care for the NBA. What do all those inclinations point toward? I was raised in Southern West Virginia and all the events I actually got to listen to, watch on TV, or attend, were within four hours of my hometown, which, I guess, at this point in a media culture that allows you to choose whatever you watch, makes me old-school.
I was at a rural West Virginian mall yesterday and I saw three young boys walking. Two wore Lebron James jerseys. One wore a Kevin Garnett jersey….the Celtics one, you know, the one after he left that other small market team. And this was in rural West Virginia. Not a place where those names would have even been known 20 years ago, because 20 years ago Magic and Bird were playing in the finals on tape-delay at 11 p.m. And even if you wanted a jersey, Spartan’s wouldn’t have had it. What does that say? People love winners and winners are marketable, even if some of those winners never even got near college.
If you aren’t from North Carolina, and you didn’t go to Duke so that you could experience its intense academic paranoia, which, by the way, would make you less of a supporter, why would you be a fan? Because you root for a winner, even if you may not be one yourself.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
I see your point.
I really do. But for once I tend to disagree with you. I think people can be legitmate fans of other teams for one reason or another. I once had a roommate who was a diehard UNC fan, as well as being a diehard WVU fan. If they played each other, he would root for WVU. But he still loved UNC for some reason. I guess it’s just a different perspective for some people. I could never love another college team like I love WVU, but I’ve also never had a reason to. I’m just not going to hold that against someone.
by Country Roads on Apr 5, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The Question, I Think, Is One Of "Legitmacy"
I have glommed onto many teams through the years. Rooted for them to win. Even bought hats. But when they lost, if they lost, it didn’t affect me. It was, “ah…good effort, too bad.” Which is how I know I wasn’t really a fan. Similarly, when they won, it didn’t have too much reflected glory. I didn’t go tearing through any bar districts saying “WE won!”
The high points of my sporting fan life have been Bob Walk’s complete game win against the Braves in Game 5 of the NLCS, the Sugar and Fiesta Bowls wins, the Pens dramatic Stanley Cup victory last year, and last weekend’s win over UK, maybe WVU’s bkb win over Cincy a few years back. In each of those instances, I was proud to be a fan of those teams.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t hold much of anything against anyone, especially choosing a team to pull for. But I do think that people that gravitate toward “blueblood winners” and have no real stake in them are not possessed of the character that those that go through highs and lows with their team have.
My best friend is a Dodger fan, and he has never even been to LA. But he became a fan when he was nine. They won the World Series that year. And he is still a Dodger fan, and he has endured a lot of shit years with them without switching allegiances. Perhaps some kids grew up in WV loving Duke in the same fashion. Hard for me to believe, because they have always been, and are still, to me, La Creme Douche. But it could be!
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
I'm not gonna give you the list of reasons I became a fan of any certain team
You can look at my profile and accuse me of attaching my wagon to winners, but that had absolutely nothing to do with why I chose all of those teams at a young age (a couple of them when the were doing very poorly at the time, with no idea of the history involved either). I don’t believe just because you’re from a certain geographical area that you have to root for a certain team and if you don’t, that you can’t be a “real fan” of another. Other than the Mountaineers, I can’t stand ANY of the local teams that most in my area choose to root for. We all have different connections to our teams…if geography is yours, so be it.
Gee Whiz, IE...
…nothing personal, and I did qualify the above definition. I don’t care who anyone roots for, as long as they root just as hard when the chips are down….
…anyway, I have been a little depressed with my familay on vacation in Clearwater since our loss Saturday. And wham…it all gets put in perspective.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
I didn't mean to come across as beligerant/confrontational
if that’s the way it read. I’ve just heard it all my life by people who just meet me, don’t know me and assume the obvious and I can get a bit defensive.
I hope you can get your spirits lifted while on vacation with your family. My thoughts and prayers go out to anyone even remotely connected to the tragedy.
It seems as if you have a connection to your particular teams
Which was my point. If you have a connect to the team (and stick with them) I have no qualms, but if you are a allegiance is based on a flavor of the month that’s when I get annoyed.
Take me for an example, I have been an Atlanta Braves fan since I was born, even met Ted Turner when I was 5, but when I got to college and after people accused me of being on the band wagon (because they won 15 straight division titles). I have no problem with your particular teams being good at this particular point in history, the Yankees had some lean years during the Don Mattingly era.
My post then I guess wasn’t directed at you, it was directed at those people that say I root for Duke AND North Carolina, or USC AND Notre Dame, or the Patriots AND the Colts.
If I offended you I’m sorry, however I stand behind my point…loyalty is paramount.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 6, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH A TEAM YOU ARE NOT A "FAN"
I’ve had this argument many times, my belief is if you don’t have a some connection to a team you are not a legitimate fan. (ask my friend who grew up in Fayette-Nam, WV and loves Notre Dame how I feel).
If you haven’t lived in the town, gone to the school, had a friend/family member that went to the school, or as I learned this week…your high school girlfriend’s aunt was Coach K’s personal assistant; I DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR FANDOM. Basically ANY connection other than “I saw them on TV when they went on that awesome run and I’ve liked them ever since.” (Longevity may effect my opinion on the validity of your connection, ie JP"s friend the Dodger fan)
This unfortunately basically excludes 80-90% of Dukies, Tar Heels, Yankee Fans, Redsox Nation, Patriot Fans.
BTW JP great post.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 6, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I see your point, too
but that doesn’t make it true for everyone. I’m a Blue Devils fan, have been since I was a kid, and it has nothing to do with “I want to cheer for a winner”. I must be the only one that realizes factors OTHER than geography may have an influence over which teams we choose to cheer for. The only team my dad even had influence on me over was the Reds, who he has cheered for for over fifty years. So please, don’t insult mine or anybody’s intelligence by saying that any non NC resident or anyone who hasn’t been to Cameron is a “fake” fan or bandwagon jumper. You say all of this ignorance, then actually want to refer as others as not being winners?
This is the kind of stupidity that makes me despise UK fans. Don’t let the jealousy/ridiculous unwarrented hate of a program that has nothing to do with you make you look like a whining child. Trust me, I’m a Devils fan, and I wanted WVU to win the national title as much or more than any of you reading this. I am a By-Godder, and I am proud to be one. I wanted a title for this state so bad, I couldn’t stand it. But if WVU and Duke failed to win, I would not focus on Butler or Mich St and bitch and complain about everything about them. BECAUSE THEY DON’T MATTER TO US.
I love you guys as WVU fans, but I have to deal with stupid Duke hate on a daily basis. And out of every twenty people that give me hell about Duke, one or two may actually have a legitimate argument and/or complaint about them. I just get sick of it.
So I can’t judge your fandom, but you can judge why I’m not a fan? Curious…
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 7, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much
You don’t know why I (or anyone else) cheers for Duke. Just trying to get the point across that it’s stupid to expect people to cheer for every team that they close to simply because attending a certain teams games “officially” makes you a fan.
So, people who don’t attend their favorite musicians concerts aren’t real fans? Only the people who go to their concerts can consider themselves “real” fans? Does that make a BIT of sense?
Like I said, you can hate Duke all you want. Everybody else does. Just know it comes off as sad and somewhat pathetic when people give reasons for hating Duke that have absolutely nothing to do with the basketball program. Duke can beat any team in the country and that teams fans will bitch and complain like Duke has beat them three times a year for two decades. It just saddens me that so many WVU fans jumped on THAT bandwagon.
Like I said, that’s a UK thing. We’re better than that.
It's ALL about loyalty
I loyally hate Duke and most of my hate comes from my PERSONAL interaction with their fans and my experience instead the belly of the beast (AKA Cameron Indoor). If you loyally root for Duke, good for you. This dialog has made me realize that is all about loyalty, if you like Duke and have liked Duke through Laettner and the nervous breakdown and back then good for you. I also said that I thought you had to have SOME connection, however tangential. IMHO it is hard to be a “real” fan of something you have NO connection to.
I also realize that there are a lot of Braves fans because of TBS and Cubs fans because of WGN. That seems like a tangential connection if I’ve ever heard one. It also must be stated that I don’t believe in absolutes, but it is certainly more fun to debate in them.
Now you your questions:
1) & 2) Music is different than sports 3) Of course it doesn’t make any sense, hate, is an illogical emotion.
Also notice how you get mad because people think you’re on the Duke “bandwagon” without knowing why you root for Duke yet you’re OK with assuming that I’m on the Duke Hate “bandwagon” without knowing why I don’t?
Blindspots suck
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And Duke Wins!!!!!
…even though two seperate shots very nearly beat those Blue Devils!
Now all those Duke fans, legitimate and posers, can feel like champions!
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
And Anyway...
…somehow I got way off point. It happens. Look at the picture, the enduring image. I love this coach. I loved this player. I loved this team. I hate how one loss at the end suddenly turns into “you never see them play together again.” And one of them got really hurt trying to make us happy.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
Respect
Most of the people I work with, and live around are Pitt fans. My boss walked in on Monday, and I expected some comments. He’s had comments about Huggins and his choice of clothes for the last few weeks. Instead he says to me:
“I got to tell you, I had no interest and no use for that coach of yours. I thought he was a bad seed. But when I saw how he held his player, the true feelings and concern, it changed my feelings. I’ll never think he’s a top coach, but he has my respect now for the way he showed he truly cares for his players. I thought it was talk, but I see now it’s true. You got a good coach, but I hope he can’t beat Pitt.”
Just thought I’d share. He’s a big Pitt supporter. I likened it to the end of Rocky 4. If he can change, we can all change etc… He did tell me he secretly was hoping WVU would win to bring the title to the Big East to shut up the talk of a down year.
by BurghMountaineer on Apr 6, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
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First, he’s not much of a Pitt fan if he is secretly rooting for WVU. I’ll never root for Pitt, no matter what.
Second, people in my office have been saying how it looked a little gay that Huggs was on the floor so close to DaSean, and that they were uncomfortable. They are really the only people I have heard say anything negative about it. Funny how perceptions are different.
by Country Roads on Apr 6, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
It’s a level of respect, maybe for the Big East, maybe because of working with me. I don’t know. But I know one thing, he’s already getting on me about how much better Pitt will be this coming year in both Football and Basketball than WVU will be.
by BurghMountaineer on Apr 7, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How and why did this picture become a thread for
I hate Duke/I love Duke? And I’m just as guilty for participating.
I don't know
I’m kinda having fun though…is that bad?
by Oregon Mountaineer on Apr 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
















