Why WVU Matches Up Extremely Well Against Duke
You've probably seen countless previews of West Virginia's upcoming National Semifinal match-up against Duke. Unfortunately, you've probably also seen countless terribly shitty, poorly researched previews. From my perspective, it seems that the national media watched WVU's game against Kentucky, took that 40 minutes as the end-all of WVU's plan of attack, and then wrote up stories that lacked knowledge of all other games the Mountaineers have played this season.
Luckily, your main man Charley West has had the pleasure of watching nearly every minute of Mountaineer basketball this season, along with quite a few of Duke's games. Based on that knowledge, WVU seems to be well positioned for a victory against the Blue Devils on Saturday night. Why? Glad you asked...
- We can play man defense. This is my #1 gripe with the national media's drive-by previews: they assume we're going to play zone. They see Kentucky's eye-popping 34 attempts from three, many of them open looks, and think that Duke's Jon Scheyer, Nolan Smith, and Kyle Singler will exploit that freedom. Au contraire, my friend. Duke lacks an imposing offensive presence on the inside, which was one reason for the zone against DeMarcus Cousins and UK. They also lack a penetrating guard like John Wall, which was another reason. Yes, guys like Smith can get into the lane, but it's not at Wall-like lightning speeds. Ebanks, Mazzulla, and Butler can stay in front of these guys. And Wellington Smith, Kevin Jones, and John Flowers are athletic enough to defend Brian Zoubek and the fighting Plumlee brothers (note: Plumlee brothers are proven only to be brothers, not fighting). I'm sure the 1-3-1 will make an appearance -- it almost always does -- but I bet we go man for most of the game.
- Duke allows a lot of two-point field goals. In fact, 60% of points against Duke come from inside the arc. That bodes extremely well for a team that plays better when they're shooting from close range. Sure, we made all eight of our first half field goals against Kentucky from beyond their arc, but it was the second half where we demoralized them with drives, mid-range jumpers, and points in the paint. Triples are great, but when guys like Jones and Ebanks are hitting from 12 feet and in, that's when we start to close out ball games. Expect that to happen on Saturday.
- Duke goes three deep. Smith, Singler, and Scheyer are three very good scoring threats. Of course, they're Duke's only scoring threats. Shut down those three, or at least limit their production, and you have an excellent chance of winning the game. Luckily, WVU has enough excellent defenders to try to do that. Ebanks goes without saying, but guys like Mazzulla and Flowers can play tough, physical defense, getting their opponents out of their game. Hell, we've already seen Mazzulla do it in the NCAA Tournament against Duke before -- I don't think there's any question whether he can do it again.
Just look at the vast amount of offensive space taken up by Smith, Singler, and Scheyer.
- It's Duke. We all saw what happened when WVU hit Duke in the mouth in Washington, DC two years ago. They fell down. Over and over again. Tough, scrappy players like Joe Mazzulla can have a field day against Duke. They're designed to stop more finesse teams from the ACC, not bruising, resourceful teams like West Virginia. We can match them athletically and defensively. And while they may have more size on the inside, it's not the type of size that generally bothers the Mountaineers. Personally, I see the game playing out very similarly to the UK game, in which we frustrate the Blue Devils to the point of no return. West Virginia 74, Duke 63.
What do you guys think are the keys to the game? Are you confident we're going to come away with a victory? Have you already started tailgating. Let us know in the comments.
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Obviously we are biased here: But I can’t believe each time that I see a preview of this game that they say Duke will exploit our zone.
Is Bob Huggins a first year coach? Because it seems to me that the pundits have never watched one of his teams play.
As I’ve said, they’ve got great athletes. But so do we. And ours aren’t white.
Advantage: WVU
I'm worred, as always.
Duke will not shoot 4 for 32 from 3. I just hope we are able to play them as tough as we did a few years back.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Apr 1, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Definitely concerned about Duke getting hot from 3, but like you said: We won’t play zone the whole game. Were there any games at all this season (apart from UK) where we played a majority of 1-3-1? I feel like Huggs has only used that D as a change of pace or when we want to force shots from the outside. In other news, its dumping snow here in Wyoming; I thought winter was over….
We do not live to be able to eat and make money. We eat and make money to be able to enjoy life. That is what life means and that is what it is for.
--George Leigh Mallory
Its snowing because of global warming
you didn’t know that
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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In the most mocking, sarcastic voice I can muster:
But it’s climate change! It’s not called global warming anymore! The climate is changing, by getting cooler and warmer at the same time! How can you not understand that?
by Country Roads on Apr 1, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No, i think it is snowing because it is only April 1 and spring doesn’t start here until at least the middle of May. Price you pay for living in the mountains.
We do not live to be able to eat and make money. We eat and make money to be able to enjoy life. That is what life means and that is what it is for.
--George Leigh Mallory
Reminds me of
my second favorite part of “Jeremiah Johnson”
[Montana, high in the mountains, deep in the snow]
Bearclaw “You wouldn’t happen to know what month it is, pilgrim?”
Johnson “ummm.. No, I truly don’t…. March, I think it might be March, or maybe April.”
Bearclaw “March, that’s a green and muddy month down below. Some folk like it, farmer’s mostly.”
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Apr 2, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Huggins said in an interview on ESPN
that we will be playing man virtually all game.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
Just a question
I searched the site you linked and couldn’t find what I was looking for. Is there anyway you could point me to a graph just like the Duke player impact chart, but for WVU? Thanks.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Apr 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
It's not embedding, so...
Go to this link and scroll towards the bottom left.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2010/04/03/2010-04-03_west-virginia_vs_duke
by Dr. Charley West on Apr 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
someone send this to rick reilly
think huggins acts like a “favorite prison guard” now, asshole (rick reilly)
I couldn't agree more, Charlie.
You hit the nail on the head in your first paragraph. The national media has based their opinion on the UK game and has overlooked this team’s body of work.
Am I the only one who is already tired of hearing about Duke already
and we still have two days until game day
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its a Great Day to be a Mountaineer where ever you may be" Tony Caridi
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
more about Duke?
the more the better…just puffs up their heads more, and motivates the ‘Eers…Da doesn’t have to make shit up to get his boys going…..Kill the Dukies.
Something else that came to mind a few minutes ago...
don’t discount the peskiness/effectiveness of Cam Thoroughman underneath for stretches at a time as well
A couple things worry me. First, the last time we played Duke they missed a ton of 3 pointers, much like UK. You can’t count on a team missing open looks. Second, teams with bigger stronger guys have been able to outrebound us – see UK, Syracuse, Cincinnati – and to some extent quicker teams – Villanova, Missouri. I also worry about where our points will come from because Duke plays very good defense. Otherwise, I think we match up wonderfully man to man.
Another thing I like: WVU has 6 wins against teams that were seeded #3 or better; Duke has one -against Baylor.
Most of the out-rebounding was because of running the 1-3-1, its hard to rebound out of that
but yes we have played much better teams in getting to the final four. we have played the most talented team in the tourny, in Kentucky, the runner up in the Pac-10 Washington, a good Mizzou team,and Morgan State, a good but not a team of the caliber of WVU. I whant to know who the hell did Duke play, other than Baylor, who should have been seeded where they were
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its a Great Day to be a Mountaineer where ever you may be" Tony Caridi
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Apr 2, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Slight correction
Washington won the Pac-10 tourney. Maybe they were the regular season runnner-up?
Duke is certainly a worthy opponent, and a loss to them would only be disappointing due to our proximity to the championship, not due to the quality of the opponent.
by Country Roads on Apr 2, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They must have been
Because I thought Cal did since they were a higher seed
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its a Great Day to be a Mountaineer where ever you may be" Tony Caridi
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
re: teams with bigger stronger guys...
Duke has a few that may be bigger, but I don’t believe they’re as strong
Quickness
Duke is certainly not quicker than WVU. Bigger, yes.
I understand your point about the open looks. Duke missed a lot of open looks in the second half of the ‘08 game, but sometimes it’s because of tired legs, too. I think this is a much better defensive team than the ’08 one. Smith and Butler are much improved and there was nobody near as talented as Ebanks on that team.
It should be a dog fight, for sure. WVU has to avoid giving Duke easy points at the line and just wear them out over the long haul of the game.
I'm a K-State fan and I hope Huggy wipes the smug off of Krzyweiwnewlaoiikwkeywski's face
Duke is the bball equivalent of the Yankees. I hope your boys stomp them by 30.
Charley
Nice preview.
Who knew you knew basketball? Must be from hanging out with the 25314 and those church league crash course coaching sessions.

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