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Fine, UCF, You Convinced Me -- You Can Join The Big East

I know this week is all but totally consumed with Final Four talk (and with good reason, wowoooowowowooooo!), but the news of UCF hiring Donnie Jones away from Marshall is still relatively decently sized news.

First, Donnie Jones is a pretty darn good coach, so UCF made a good hire.  Second, Jones and his wife are both WV natives, so this was no small coup to lure him away from Huntington.  And third -- and this is the most important -- they gave him a bunch of money; $800k per year, to be exact, which was more than double he was making at Marshall.  UCF is also paying its football coach, George O'Leary, over $1 million per year.  And I haven't even yet mentioned they've opened two essentially new facilities (a brand new football stadium and a totally renovated basketball arena) in the last three years.  That, my friends, is a big time commitment to athletics.  It's a big enough commitment in my mind to warrant an invitation to the Big East.

UCF brings a few other things to the table, as well.  Their location in a major city like Orlando is a big plus.  The proximity to USF is another positive contributing factor.  All of these combine to make UCF a very sexy pick for conference expansion, at least as far as the Big East is concerned.

For the longest time, I was a proponent of ECU as the 9th member, and I don't think ECU has done anything to move down in the pecking order.  I just think UCF has done everything right to move up. They're prospects long-term in basketball are certainly much brighter (ECU is consistently terrible), and a new stadium and Florida recruiting bode well for UCF football.

As of right now, I have to say, they're the leaders in the clubhouse.

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You make excellent points here.

But would USF ever allow them in? Or would it even matter what USF thinks? At this point, I’m becoming more and more amenable to the idea of adding UCF and Memphis, mostly due to their respective markets. And that’s assuming they can carry the fans in their own markets. But add Orlando and Memphis to Tampa, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Louisville, and NY/NJ (covered by UConn, Rutgers, and Syracuse), and that’s a pretty formidable conference footprint. I just wish the product was a little more appealing.

by Country Roads on Mar 30, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez....

Debating between ECU and UCF?

Time for WV to get the heck outta there.

Regarding football, you’re basically hoping Pitt is good and another team steps up every year for the rest of time. Talk about a second rate conference.

by WVP on Mar 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Excuse me, did I miss something?

Even if the Big East was “second rate” (which they’re not, if you care to look up the Sagarin conference rankings over the last 5 or so years), what exactly is it you’d like the Big East to do, and where, praytell, do you propose WVU should go?

by Country Roads on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has to be the worst week ever for Marshall fans.

1. Seeing the State Land-Grant Institution make the Final Four—>CHECK
2. Losing your up-and-coming head basketball coach to a school in your conference—>CHECK

hahahaha

WVU MPA '07
WVU Ph.D. '10

by roolgol90 on Mar 30, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not get both UCF and ECU

sure we would have a 18 team basketball conference, but it would help Football

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by WVPiratesfan on Mar 30, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Besides the problem with the huge basketball conference

we’d be right back where we are now on the football side, playing an unbalanced home/away conference schedule. A ninth team gets it to where each school plays 4 home and 4 away conference games each year.

We also need to put DePaul on notice that they’re gone when the next football team comes on board. Is there really a point in keeping them on?

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by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 30, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I second the motion to put DePaul on notice

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Mar 30, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

arena is brand new not renovated

The old arena is a practice facility. Just a slight clarification. I agree with you on your assertion. If UCF had made these committments by 2003, they would have likely gotten the nod over USF. Heck they outdraw USF in basketball already.

by tb77 on Apr 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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