WVU vs. Louisville Grades: A Unit-By-Unit Look At The Mountaineers Victory Over The Cardinals
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 22, 2010 3:15 PM EST
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Around 2 p.m. on Saturday afternoon I was ready for nap. Not because I stayed up late the night before or because I moved into a new place early that morning, but rather because I was watching an extremely boring football game on the picture box. WVU vs. Louisville was mind numbingly boring.
The sad part about the almost nap is the fact I was in a bar. I have never intentionally taken a nap in a bar before. Our offense has no life and lacks any ingenuity in its play calling. In fact, I'm beginning to think Jeff Mullen was the chief designer of the Ford Pinto.
When Bill Stewart said the Big East was the black and blue league, he was right. My eyes were black and blue after poking myself in the eyes trying to stay awake on Saturday.
This was a terrible performance for almost every unit. Let's get the pain over with...
Offense: D Why did I yet again believe this offense was anything other than completely incompetent?
Offensive Line: F Does Dave Johnson also teach bull fighting at WVU? ¡OLÉ!
Defense: A++++++++ While our offense was horrible, I was never afraid that Louisville was going to win. This unit was in complete control of the game the entire day.
Special Teams: C- Brandon Hogan just decided to catch the first punt of the day. Oh wait, he just changed his mind. Also, Tyler Bitancurt just had another field goal blocked. Great job line!
Bill Stewart: D- I give him credit for not wanting to lubricate the world in his post game press conference.
Jeff Casteel: A++++++++ I don't know if he wants to be a head coach, but if we do have a new coach next season, I hope they think long and hard about keeping Casteel and others on his staff.
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JP? WVU +2 at Pitt, seems a little cheap my friend, if this wasnt a revenge situation I’d be all over WVU, and I still may be. Just can’t get myself to bet this team with this offense being so unpredictable.
by EatSchmittPitt35 on Nov 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions
Our Offense Has Got To Be A Sticking Point...
When you think about taking us. Haven’t finished compiling my stuff yet, but I agree. I think we will win. I will get real interested if it inflates to 3.5, which I think it might.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
by JP Fanshawe on Nov 22, 2010 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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I don’t even watch the games anymore, and I did up until a few games ago (no matter how much I hate the staff). However, it truly doesn’t matter that I don’t watch these games.
Potential recruits? Now that matters.
Soon, I see the WVU football media guide littered w/ no name recruits from eastern PA, Maryland, New Jersey and other “hot beds” of American college football. This was generally the case during the latter era of Don Nehlen.
1. Not surprised that you don’t watch the games. That sounds about right for you.
2. No name recruits from PA, MD, and NJ like the end of the Nehlen era? You mean like Avon Cobourne, Quincy Wilson, Grant Wiley, Tim Brown, Rasheed Marshall, Brian King, Lance Frazier, and James Davis? Yep, heaven forbid we ever have a dearth of talent like that again.
by Country Roads on Nov 22, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
+ 10
I think ragging Nehlen is the equivalent of disrepecting the father or grandfather that started your succesful business with 300 bucks and a dream. Nehlen laid the foundation for this football program, and I think had something to do with elevating the expectations of its fans.. I would argue that it is because of him that we have the ego, and desire, that we do.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
by JP Fanshawe on Nov 23, 2010 8:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Again, that’s not true. In his three years in the old Big East, Rich Rod finished 6-1 twice. In his 10 years in the Big East, Nehlen only won more than 4 conference games twice. In fact, in 1995, Nehlen only played one ranked team – 5-6 Miami – and finished 5-6. Same in ’97 – #19 VT – and finished 7-5. From 91-00, the most ranked opponents Nehlen ever played in a regular season was 4 in 94 (finished 7-6). Rodriguez played 4 regular season games against ranked opponents each year from 01-03 and 07. From 91-00, Nehlen played 30 ranked teams, or 3/year. From 01-07, Rodriguez played 26 ranked teams, or 3.7/year. Rodrguez also played out of conference games against Notre Dame, Wisconsin twice, better Maryland teams than Nehlen faced, and Virginia Tech twice.
Better Maryland teams is not a true statement either is your assertion that Nehlen didn’t play a tougher schedule. Let’s face the fact that getting ranked in the 80’s and 90’s was a ton tougher then it was for Stew or RR. Why? because of the the internet, direct TV and the fact that you can see almost any team in the country play. Add to that the BCS system and you will see that a lot more put on being ranked. Look at the schedules, not the rankings and that will tell a much different story. Nehelen teams played great miami, great Penn state, great/good Pitt, Great Cuse teams, not to mention a surging VT in the 90’s as well as OSU, Florida, OU, Okie state, ND, football as a whole was ton different then, the parity wasn’t there, because all the “traditional” schools still stockpiled players. When RR and Stew got in the game it has changed a lot because kids now adays would rather play right away rather then sit behind someone at one of those schools. We played as an independent, which in its self makes things harder, and during an era far different then today.
Actually, being ranked in the 80’s was more difficult because there was only a top 20, and being ranked in the 90’s was easier because there were fewer D-1 teams. But at the end of the days, only 25 teams can be ranked, so it no different now than it was then – 25 teams are ranked. And if you’re talking about Direct TV and the internet, that makes it easier for smaller schools like Nevada and UCF (teams we didn’t play) to be ranked than it does for bigger schools like BC and Syracuse to be ranked (teams we did play). So I’m not really sure your point.
Again, I was going from 91-00, which is the Big East era, and the era fans believe the game passed Nehlen by as evidenced by his 68-47-2 record (57-46-2 without 93). That was not a more difficult schedule than Rodriguez played, at least from 01-03. Maryland from 01-04 was a lot better than at any time from 91-00. Pitt was awful 91-00, as was Temple and Rutgers.
Not sure how this plays into the calculations.
But for most of the 2000s, teams could play an extra game, which usually turned out to be an FCS opponent and therefore an automatic win. Of course, most teams do this so everybody gets an extra win. But if you’re comparing winning percentages, that stat would certainly boost RR and BS’s stats.
I really am not old enough to remember how good our schedules were in the 80s, but it just seems like BC, Penn State, Miami, VT, Syracuse, Maryland, Pitt was a more difficult schedule than UConn, Louisville, USF, Cincy, Syracuse, Maryland, Pitt. Maybe that’s because we weren’t as good back then so we viewed those teams as more challenging opponents.
I do remember that our 1993 schedule was not looked upon as being that great, which is why we ended up in the Sugar Bowl instead of playing Nebraska in the Orange Bowl.
I will defend the schedules that RR had to play in 2001-03. Those years featured elite Miami teams, very good VT, Pitt, Wisconsin and Maryland teams, and respectable BC and Syracuse teams.
by Country Roads on Nov 23, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve got some stats….
Jeff Sagarin’s strength of schedule rankings (could only find them back to 98):
10 – 79
09 – 31
08 – 47
07 – 40
06 – 37
05 – 63
04 – 65
03 – 56
02 – 54
01 – 35
00 – 19
99 – 57
98 – 51
Funny how the 02-03 numbers are only about 10 spots better than 04-05.
I wonder if that’s a product of playing some great and some terrible teams in 02-03 and then playing all mediocre teams in 04-05?
by Country Roads on Nov 23, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Once again
Columbus shows his true colors. He gave up on this team a long time ago. Not the coaches, the team.
I watched and or listened to the entire game Saturday while enjoying time with my family. (means I was obligated to do stuff for the wife but was allowed to listen while I worked)
As far as recruits, no matter how many stars they have, or the rank of the class, it only matters when they are on the field. If they work and the coaching staff helps with their progress they will be quality. Look at ND’s always top recruiting classes. They’ve done great, wouldn’t you say?
by BurghMountaineer on Nov 23, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
case in point
“Look at ND’s always top recruiting classes. They’ve done great, wouldn’t you say?”
by wvu.ftw on Nov 23, 2010 1:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Love Devine but not into the line.
There’ s no hOle by the big line’s O.
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