TSM Coaching Approval Meter (Post-Cincinnati, 2010)
by Dr. Charley West on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM EST
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PrintA convincing win. Like sherbet served between courses of a meal, it did a lot to get the taste of the past few weeks. Unfortunately, the feeling is fleeting, because as awful as the courses before truly were, the taste is coming back gradually.
That's a very long-winded attempt at saying that this win was good, but more is going to be needed to put the earlier disappointments behind us. A lot more.
Still, the approval ratings have generally nowhere to go but up, considering we hit a paltry 3% two weeks ago. But how much higher will it go? How many people will see the 37-10 scoreline and jump back on the proverbial bandwagon? Or literally jump on it, I suppose, if there so happens to be a bandwagon driving through your town. Either way, stay tuned.
Last Week: 3.7%
Season Average: 36.1%
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Raw data:
1071 – Yes
1895 – No
2966 – Total
by Dr. Charley West on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions
I voted no. I have been a naysayer for a long time....
But I was extremely happy with our performance against Cinnci. Just about the only thing that I would have changed is that HCBS should have continued to run with gamplan a little longer.
We have had offensive issues all season long. Even though we played outstanding on Sat, I think he should have taken the opportunity to allow the our players more reps when things were clicking as opposed to calling off the dogs 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Insteaed, we got a fairly comfortable lead, and it was back to the ol’ run out the clock routine.
After our last score in the 3rd (37-10), 28 of our last 29 plays were runs. The only pass play was a -2 yard loss to Noel Devine….
Another thing that still concerns me is the HCBS waited until our hopes of a BCS were basically dashed, as we dug ourselves into an in-escapable hole, before figuring out that their was something seriously wrong that needed to be fixed.
As a HC it’s your job to continually evaluate every element of your team, at all times. Not just when things have gotten to the point of total meltdown.
What I saw on Sat was a step in the right direction, but any team can play well for one half of a game, well coached teams play well consistently.
Here’s to hoping that we can do just that over the last 3.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
I can get on board with that.
Your criticisms are certainly fair ones.
by Country Roads on Nov 17, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nope...
To me, its an overall performance evaluation, not a manic-depressant, knee jerk reaction to one good half of football against a bad team that may not go to a bowl game.
Still no
I’m not swaying back to yes just because we beat up on a poor Cinci D. I’m just not going to settle for mediocre, and quite frankly that’s all we have been with HCBS.
I voted no because I do not approve of the job the staff is doing.
by The 25314 on Nov 17, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No
While it was nice to get off the schneid, Offense only really showed up for one half. Yards without points are pointless, figuratively and literally, unless the sole objective is to chew clock and I’m not convinced that was the complete intent.
Yes
That team came out and played like they wanted to beat the tar out of Cincy
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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Yes
I am still disappointed in the season and the play. HOWEVER, for two weeks there was a lot of talk about HCBS and his staff and what has gone wrong. Overall the entire team, staff and players, stepped up and showed us what WVU football could and should look like.
I want to see this happen again this Saturday against Louisville, then go to Heinz Field and beat the snot and anything else out of Pitt (since they eat shit, I assume they can beat that out of them to) then follow up with a win over Rutgers, securing another BCS Bowl. Yes, this can happen.
So, I have to vote yes this week because I DO approve of scoring 30+ points, I DO approve of a defense that just smothers teams, I DO approve of the way the coaching staff made adjustements with the bye week.
Again, I base mine on the past week and not the collective body of work for the season, or for the career as many seem to do.
by BurghMountaineer on Nov 17, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions
No
This is still a team that lost for the first time ever to lose to UCONN and the lose for the first time to Syracuse in almost a decade.
A win over a poor Cincy team doesn’t do anything to allay my concerns about the future of the football program.
The main question that should be answered by WVU fans everywhere is: Can WVU win a national championship under Bill Stewart’s guidance?
WVU MPA '07
WVU Ph.D. '10
Exactly!
Can we win a national championship under him? Not “Should we expect to win one every year?”
You have to pick something and stick with it.
You always talk about having higher “expectations” than a majority of this board. Now we have to become experts in talent evaluation and the intricacies of A-gap protection? I’m sorry, I just can’t keep up with your astute prowess.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 19, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
Still A No
Because a win at home over a 3-5 team doesn’t make me forget two terrible, back-to-back losses. I want to see a similar effort to last Saturday’s this weekend in Louisville. Stew’s teams have under-performed on the road, and the nearest thing he has to a signature regular-season road win is….I can’t even think of what it might be.
I’ll flip back to Yes if we can show some consistency from last week to this week.
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
by JP Fanshawe on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No Like JP said
I can’t change my mind with a home win against 3-5 team. I was born at night, but it wasn’t last night. Bring on Tommy! Yes I will support the Bowdens even though I’m in the minority. I think Tommy and Terry together could be dangerous, but I don’t think it will happen. So, at this point me rooting for the Bowden’s is rooting for the underdog.
Living in SC
and trust me, we don’t want Tommy Bowden. His best success was only when he had RichRod as O-Coor. His teams at Clemson consistently under-whelmed.
Like beckett said ^ ^ ^
Some of my wife’s extended family and three of my best buddies down here are all huge Clemson fans. I watched Tommy B’s whole tenure and we don’t want him in Morgantown.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 17, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
With you on the Bowdens
My dad is an alum of Clemson, so my second favorite team is the Tigers. Every year Clemson would have a lot of hype and then lay a big egg. Every year Bowden would get a “job saving” win (AKA Bowden bowl).
I’m sure he’s a great guy but Tommy is an underachiever and Terry is a crook
"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks
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by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 17, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
obviously didn't get the point of my post. I said I'm rooting for now b/c he is the underdog
I don’t think he will even be considered. Take this for what it is worth: I got a private message on my BGN account a couple days ago (from someone that works for Mylan) saying that OL had met with RR. That is probably just BS, but that’s some crap floating around in the WV infosphere. I would take Bobby Bowden back be4 I took back RR.
Yes
I have always voted these polls on a week to week basis, so I’m not changing that now. I liked the idea of the complete program review and evaluation during the bye week. I liked the results against an inexperienced Cincy team. I hope we can continue to maintain that level of intensity through the next three weeks.
However, I’m not a bandwagon fan. I still want Johnson and Mullen gone after this year, and I am not convinced that Stewart is the right choice to lead us forward. See my signature line.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
I would like to see McMichael included and eliminated
if the tackles are going to stay with the TE’s….if a new OL coach in charge of the entire unit were to come in, McMichael gets a pass
Agreed,
but only to the extent that I think it was a mistake to split off the tackles from the guards and centers for position coaching. Put them all back together as a unit under a new OL coach and let McMichael prove his worth at his other duites.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 17, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Now that I think about it...
It is odd that the tackles are split off. The OL is supposed to function as a whole, is it not? I never played football, but that was always my understanding. I feel like having 2 different coaches might undermine the cohesiveness.
by Country Roads on Nov 17, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
No
I think it’s interesting to see how people interpret “currently.” I think that’s one of the main factors that influences votes. My view of “currently” is somewhere between “this week” and “career.” I think more recent results affect my vote more than past results, but overall body of work also plays in.
I just can’t get the taste of UConn (and, to a lesser extent, Syracuse—-which I saw more as a bad game by Geno than a complete team meltdown) out of my mouth. If we finish at 8-4, that’s about the minimum I could accept for me to support us giving Stew another year. If we finish at 9-3, I would be okay (not happy) with it, depending on what bowl we go to and how we play in that bowl. It’s going to be hard to get me back on board before that, though, becuase I’m not sure how good our chances are of winning out.
I voted no....
You can put lipstick on a hog but it is still a hog. That is what this offensive coaching staff is….. We need to be able to score THE WHOLE game, especially since it would be nice to put the back ups in the game and give them a chance to try something other then handing off the ball. Even if we win out I’m still not happy and expect a change.
10-3 with a BCS bowl win isn't good enough for you?
by Country Roads on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
That would be a sight to see
and, yes, it would convince me to keep Stewart for another year.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 17, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not when the offense performs so up and down…. and that has been a problem for three years now. The problem with 10-3 and a BCS bowl is that we need a lot of things to roll our way to get there and we shouldn’t be any where close to that position. When you lose to two garbage schools in back to back weeks that is not acceptable, nor is it a fluke, it is a sign of bad leadership. We have an elite defense and a bottom of the barrel offense. That is what is frustrating about this team. We should be sitting at or right outside the top ten and instead we are off in the mid 40’s. EVEN IF, and that is a big IF, we win out that only puts us at probably 16-17 if we are lucky. Three short years ago we were finishing in the top ten, and regularly in the NC discussion, now we are an also ran in a bad conference. How is that any good?
In our current state, I'm not real happy.
But IMO, it’s really hard to complain about making and winning BCS bowls at any school, especially WVU, regardless of how good or bad the rest of the conference is.
But hey, making (let along winning) a BCS bowl is a long shot right now. So hopefully the team is with me in focusing on Louisville for the moment.
by Country Roads on Nov 17, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't vote
call me ambivalent call me wishy washy but I’m not ready to say yes or no.
Yes
He won last week
He seemed to take stock and make adjustments
He showed us the future with Alston/Clarke in the backfield
I think Stew ACTUALLY takes training our men to be citizens, students and athletes (in that order) seriously. Regardless if I want to win for my ego I think it’s important that men coming out of our program are upstanding citizens and are capable of doing more than being the third assistant on a 2A high school staff and can’t spell assistant because they wore the Old Gold and Blue.
I like wins…I like Mountaineers more.
No
We’re 6-3 and should be at least 8-1
One game does not make a season (unless it’s against PITT)
We need some serious discussion/action on the coaching staff (whether that’s changing personnel or attitude)
I’m not happy with the “split-decision” mentality
"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks
Dr. Charley West, Please don't block me if I have typos or poor grammar.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 17, 2010 6:28 PM EST reply actions
I'm a West Virginia voter, so...
I voted Yes and then I voted no.
I’m always happy after a win because that is what I “expect” going into every game. However, I’m still unhappy with our overall performance on offense this season. The ultimate determination of whether this season was a success or failure will be our performance in the remaining games.
I also voted Yes to make sure EatSchmidt didn’t call me a flip flopper again. That really hurt my feelings.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 18, 2010 9:08 AM EST reply actions
Speaking of WV voters....
I did some research and discovered that 9 of the YES votes from last week were actually from deceased Lincoln County residents.
by Country Roads on Nov 18, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
lol...
vote early, vote often…
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
what about this
Is Auburn’s offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn, the next WVU head coach?
by WVUDIEHARD1976 on Nov 18, 2010 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't be opposed to it.
But honestly, if he was our next OC, I bet we’d be pretty freakin good.
by Country Roads on Nov 18, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
+1
"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks
Dr. Charley West, Please don't block me if I have typos or poor grammar.
by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 19, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
Has he won without paying players?
Most people could win in college with an NFL payroll.
Also, for an assistant he has bounced around a little. I would want someone else.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 19, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Brady Hoke
Has there been any discussion about Hoke moving to Morgantown?
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