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The Bad News: Maybe We Just Are Who We Are On Offense

Perhaps I am a masochist.  I headed on over to msnsportsnet.com to check out HCBS's quotes from Monday afternoon's press conference, and the first few lines I read irritated me.  It seems Coach Stew is a stat geek like myself, because he began this way:

Last year, in the 2009 season, our offense had four 400+ yard games and we won nine football games. This year, our team has had five 400+ yard games and we have five wins. In 2009, we had 15 fumbles lost and this season we have 11 so far. That doesn’t please me with the fumbles. The 400+ offense is encouraging though. When you lose a game, sometimes you lose sight of what is good.

Does this sound like a defense of the offense to anyone else?  Loyal to the end, which I admire, but frankly, this isn't what I want to hear from the head man.  Because the salient part of any offensive analysis, has to be points-scored, and an even better metric then, might be yards gained per point scored, or YPP.  So consider:

Year

Net Yards Gained

Total Points Scored

Yards Per Point

Points Per Game

2007

5931

515

11.5

39.6

2008

4685

319

14.6

24.5

2009

4907

340

14.4

26.2

2010 (8 Games)

2956

196

15.1

24.5

Star-divide

For cross-reference purposes, here are the current BCS top 5 teams in terms of YPP: Oregon 10.4, Auburn 12.4, TCU 11.9, Boise State 10.8, and Utah 9.9. 

With yards per point on offense, the lower the number the better, because the fewer yards a team must travel in order to score indicates mulitple positive correlations - efficient offense, strong defense, and short fields earned through special teams.  Elite numbers are under 11.4 (the benchmark possession travels 80 yards and results in 7 points, 80/7 = 11.4).  If you want to read more about yards per point, you can do so here.

As you can see from the chart, our YPP number now is 3.6 yards higher than what it was in The Product's last WVU offense, and more worriesome, it is skewing higher, and has never been under 14, which, my friends, is not good.  Being over 15, in fact, is flat-out horrible.  Duke is 2-6 and has a YPP of 15.8.  Turnovers this year, no doubt, have had something to do with the YPP number rising since turnovers require that a team to travel much farther to score.

There were some quotes that gave me hope we can salvage at least second-place in the Big East.

Things I need to work on this week - first and foremost, on offense, we need to work on ball security. We are going to do a very intense turnover circuit and we are going to hit it hard this week.

Number two, we are going to work on formations and motions. A couple of guys were called because they were not on the line of scrimmage over the last couple of weeks. They were young guys, but we need to make sure they get it. I need to do a better job of coaching that.

Third, we need to work on pass protection. We have done well with the sacks, but how many hurries have we had? I want to move the pocket and see what we do best.


There is no "I" in team. At the top of the line of that team, is the coach – that is me. I need to do a better job. I need to do a better job with the coaches. I met with the coaches this morning and, (offensive coordinator) Jeff Mullen and I grilled each other about every play and looked at every player. We looked at the plays and asked if the players could do certain plays.

We are going to call what we need to call to win football games, with the players that can do the best.

I thought it was intriguing that Stew explicitly mentioned Mullen and "grilling" each other.  I hope some good comes from the meeting, but that last bit about "calling what we need to call to win football games..." has me scratching my head.  What have we been doing?

And then, toward the end, he said this:

After you get so many films on someone, it gets tough, but we are who we are. We have not run the quarterback. I try to give you (the media) some information and not give away our game plan. By running Geno Smith the other night, that really opened things up for us. We had them confused, and we are going to try to run him some more.

What?  I am not a football coach.  Maybe I don't know a damn thing about football.  In fact, I know I don't.  I am not smart enough to play a video game beyond Tecmo Bowl-level, at which I rocked by the way.  So, I will just guess I am wrong when I say that more of Geno running the ball is less attractive than integrating some tight end screens.  I know, however, that I don't like reading: "...but we are who we are."  The really sad part is that the chart above - the one that shows YPP's of 14.6, 14.4, and 15.1 - indicates that Coach Stew is right.  If that's the case, and we keep doing what we have been the last few weeks, we will be lucky to get to the St. Petersburg Bowl.

I hate to end on such a negative note.  So let's look at Yards Per Point from the defensive standpoint.  In this case the higher the number, the better since it indicates a team's opponent had to travel farther to score points.

Year

Net Yards Allowed

Total Points Allowed

Yards Per Point

Points Per Game Allowed

2007

3922

235

16.6

18

2008

4276

221

19.4

17

2009

4375

282

15.5

21.7

2010 (8 games)

1999

109

18.3

13.6

Clearly, this year's defense is the best of the last four years by points per game allowed, and is very close to the 2008 D that had a YPP of 19.4.  Were it not for the exceptional coaching and consistent play of these guys, this year would be going even worse.  For comparison's sake, TCU is tops in both net yards allowed, and scoring defense, which merits them a YPP of 25.1.  We are in top ten in the country by this metric...lights-out good.  Not that this is news, but the defense will make our best case for finishing second in the Big East.  If there is a change in coaching at year's end, I will be sad to see Jeff Casteel depart.

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What I got out of this is

we increased our yardage by about 1000 yards from 2007 to 2008 but somehow scored less points. Things that don;t make sense

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its too bad that NHL is taken because the National Football League has become the National Hypocrite League" Mark Schlereth
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by WVPiratesfan on Nov 2, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice Catch...

I noticed that, too…and found that I had put in only our rushing number, and not out total offense number from 07…it is now corrected.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Nov 2, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was throughly confused as to how that happens

I mean I know the Steelers gained something like 700 more yards in 2009 than they did in 2008 and somehow only score 7 more points

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its too bad that NHL is taken because the National Football League has become the National Hypocrite League" Mark Schlereth
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Nov 2, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is Right on The Money!

JP, you said with stats what I’ve been trying to ariculate about our offense all year. It just feels like we have way too many negative or zero gain plays. It feels like we have way too few drives where we just clip down the field in 3-4 plays. (Usually the first drive of the game is like that though)

I think we need to put two backs in the backfield- either go to the I or a two back spread. The other back could lead on running plays and help with pass protection so we can have the time to throw deep.

By the way- that picture of Stew looks like he should be saying “I did not have sex with that woman…”

by WVUSouth on Nov 2, 2010 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I Like Your Idea....

about using more I-formation….good call on the pic, too, which I guess is why somebody removed it?

Consider this: with five games remaining (including the bowl game….we are still going to go to a bowl game), we have to average 28.8 points per game just to hit last year’s points per game mark. Unless we stop turning the ball over, I am sure the YPP will also rise. Nearly 29 a game seems steep after the last three contests. If we don’t hit that number, it will be three straight years of declining offensive production.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Nov 2, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is...

He’s comparing himself to himself. That’s a pretty easy comparison, right? Now, if you want to compare this year’s offense to an actually good offense, like 2007, then you’re not even in the same ballpark. But going back to 2009, a year which didn’t go as planned either, is a lot easier.

by Dr. Charley West on Nov 2, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I Am Also Bothered...

by the way he said: “and we won nine games,” as if that was an acceptable level. Granted, it reflects a good season, but it was also one that ended with a loss, and arguaby could have been better. I don’t want our head coach to seem satisfied with nine wins, which is how the comment comes off.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Nov 2, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

We need to root for Georgia to lose out, then make Mark Richt the Godfather offer after he gets fired

by WVUSouth on Nov 2, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is...

I guarantee a significant number of our fans would be livid that we just hired a coach who went 5-7 (or whatever) at Georgia the previous year.

by Country Roads on Nov 2, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was good stuff. I’ve always said that a team should always score around a point per 10 yards. Nice to see I really am a genius.

Such a state shows a good defense give short fields or scoring points. Special teams winning field position or scoring points and an offense capitalizing on the other team’s mistakes, scoring TD’s in the red zone and being efficient.

Bill Stewart was doomed the second he decided to pander to the emotionally vulnerable WVU fans that wanted to throw the baby (the offense) out with the bath water (Rodriguez).

by The 25314 on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

This is simply rhetoric. I have full confidence that he’s grilling the coaches/players because he truly doesn’t understand where the breakdowns are happening even after watching film. He was never a coordinator on either side of the ball and likely doesn’t have experience in this realm. He is a great “Assistant head coach”…..which is the guy on a college coaching staff who is placed to give verbal encouragement immediately after young men have been berated/dressed down from their head coach (which I truly think is an important position to hold).

I think it will be interesting to see if some of WVU’s large local donors (ie. Puskars, etc.) will be in line w/ Clements/Luck to begin searching for a replacement. I wouldn’t be surprised if Luck’s hands are tied to a degree, given the lack of volume of high level donors at WVU. If so, I fear my worst case scenario may come true…..that the OC and perhaps others will be released while Stewart retains the head coaching position. If this happens, it will be most frustrating for Mountaineer fans and a knock at our intelligence……These fundamental/global issues w/ the program in terms of preparation, sense of urgency, have reared their ugly head since ‘08……if you think that’s a coordinator’s doing, you’d be wrong.

by WVUColumbus on Nov 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

However,

after thinking, Luck is clearly a bright/successful guy and would undoubtedly want total control of the program….he likely insured this to be the case when he took the job.

by WVUColumbus on Nov 2, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's funny you mention our lack of high-level donors.

Because in all other aspects, you expect us to be equal to progams like OSU, Texas, Alabama, etc. While not mutually exclusive, it’s hard to be OSU, Texas, and Bama without the same number of high level donors.

by Country Roads on Nov 2, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't fire him is he wins 9-10 games

We’re not an upper echelon program at the moment. If Mack Brown won 9 games 3 years in a row, he’d be gone but I don’t think we’re at that level. Realistically. I think stats and play on the field have shown that we need a change at the coordinator position AT THE VERY LEAST.

If we lose another game (including the bowl game…if StewBeef makes it that far) I think Luck thanks Stew for his service and we move on. I have no doubt this will be done with respect, gratitude and class. I also expect the new hire process to be professional, controlled and appropriate (not an emotional decision like the last one).

"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks

Dr. Charley West, Please don't block me if I have typos or poor grammar.

by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't we fire

Stewart if he wins out? He’s as good as gone right now. In college football it doesn’t matter what you do w/ MOST of your games it matters what you do w/ all of them. Otherwise, you are no longer “an upper echelon” team as you appropriately stated.

by WVUColumbus on Nov 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nebraska and Solich

Solich had 10 wins and got fired and that was 03. Nebraska just in the last 2 years has become prominent again.

Notre Dame fired Willingham after an 8-win season and have been chasing ever since. My point is we shouldn’t try to punch bigger than our weight. If we fire a guy who has the best winning percentage of any WVU coach after three years it will ultimately hurt the reputation of the university and could send our program into a downward spiral that will take us a decade to get out of.

That being said, if he loses I think he’s gone. (If the season ended today he’d be gone)

I don’t make the perceptions I just respond to them

"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks

Dr. Charley West, Please don't block me if I have typos or poor grammar.

by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 3, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

missing the big picture

Its not about how many wins or losses necessarily Stewart has, its the direction of the program. Its been a scary trend to see the decline, and like any smart business (and college football IS a business) you have to know when to cut your losses. In one season we’ve seen only 31 points produced against a AA school, OT with Marshall, losses to Syracuse and UConn, and a lazy effort against USF.

Notre Dame fired Willingham because they had a shot a guy who just didn’t work out. Yes, they’ve been searching since then to recapture their glory, but in actuality, it was like saying "oh we can hire this guy with a really good resume (Weis) to come in and reinvigorate our fanbase and alumni. Firing WIllingham was less about Ty than it was about what they thought they were getting.

Solich at Nebraska was run out because the direction of the programs were starting to teeter. Solich was replaced with Callahan (big mistake, but a guy with a great resume) after Miami posted the most embarrassing loss in Husker history on them in a national title game. Firing him wasn’t a smart thing to do entirely, but what has Solich done since then at other schools to prove he was a genius unfairly run out of town?

I’m not going to start with all the reasons why those two replacements failed, other than to say they’re unfair examples to cite because typical NFL coaches tend make TERRIBLE college coaches.

And “best winning percentage of any WVU coach” is the most ridiculous stat any of Stew’s supporters ever bring up. He’s 11-6 in conference games, and with his staff (ie NOT RR’s holdovers calling plays for him in the Fiesta Bowl) has beaten just TWO ranked teams in nearly 3 seasons.

by beckett929 on Nov 4, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually as of the UCONN loss, rich rod’s winning percentage is higher….so we won’t have to hear that garbage anymore.

as for solich and willingham, their programs didn’t fade because thos guys were fired, the programs faded because they hired the wrong coach. Pelini was begging for the job that time around, too, and they didn’t give it to him.

this also proves the point, that there are no top 10 programs, only top 10 coaches. even the best programs struggle without a good coach and the worst succeed with one. (see Boise State and Notre Dame)

by The 25314 on Nov 4, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it does not prove that point about top programs.

It’s easier for a top program to go out and get another good coach when one retires, leaves, or doesn’t succeed there. It’s why schools like Florida, Bama, OSU, Texas, and USC are never more than a couple years away from being at the top. It’s why Louisville has sucked since Petrino left, why Bowling Green fell off after Meyer left, and why Ball State fell off after Brady Hoke left. It’s why WVU didn’t go out and hire Nick Saban or some other stud coach after RR left. If we were a top program, we would have the money to go out and hire whoever we wanted. There’s a reason the best coaches gravitate toward certain programs—-money, prestige, and recruiting. 3 things that WVU lags behind in.

by Country Roads on Nov 4, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, even those schools can make a mistake in hiring.

Like Florida with Zook, Bama with Schula, Notre Dame with Weis. They just turn around and hire another great coach after those guys are fired, like Meyer, Saban, and Kelly. What does WVU do? We try to figure out what upcoming offensive coordinator we want to give a shot to, or which MAC coach might be willing to leave. If we were a top 10 program, we would go out and pluck Gary Pinkel from Mizzouri, or Mark Dantonio from Michigan State, or Dan Mullen from Mississippi State, or Mark Stoops from Arizona. If we pulled any of those off, I’d be astonished.

by Country Roads on Nov 4, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I Agree We Aren't Top 10 As A Program....

But I would say that we are Top 25. And the names you mention, you can’t argue with the fact that some of those guys might just be happy where they are….still, this is why they have agents. I am sure Luck knows how to put out the word, and then it will become apparent who wants us to make a run for his services. The only one I think that might be interested from the names you threw out is Mullen, because the SEC presents a harder road, and Miss St will always be a cycle team. He could win more here.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Nov 4, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wvu didn’t go out and hire a stud head coach after rich rodriguez left because the morons in charge got liquored up at 3 in the morning and hired a goober to be the head coach. and before that, the coaching search was an abject disaster and ridiculed nationally because the people in charge insisted on highering someone that was from west virginia that would tell us we’re special and different from everyone else.

by The 25314 on Nov 9, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with your points I disagree with your premise

The idea that the “run of the mill” WVU fan or fan of anything for that matter (save Manchester United) is not as interested in directions of the program as say you or I are.

Sure I think Stew should go and you make good points about Ty and Solich but even so (as has been stated below) we are not a team that can fire a guy on direction rather than wins and losses. As long as we are in the running for the Big East and end up in the top 25 at the end of the year, the fan base I think will want more but won’t be disgruntled.

As far as the best winning percentage line you might think it’s stupid however how many people do you think give two shits about the research and stats that are on this site. The answer +/- 25 (number of regular commenters based on a blind guess).

This is not a site for the “common” fan this is a site for those that care about turnover stats and the trend that shows when StewBeef has his secret meetings with Dan Nehlen in the basement.

A side note: I don’t have to agree with an argument to bring it up for argument’s sake. I mean really I never thought I would be a part of an elitist group of Mountaineer fans.

"Thus, it is with those nurtured in Appalachia—they leave, but they look back, remembering pleasant things. The land has claimed them, and its ties will not be severed." --Maurice Brooks

Dr. Charley West, Please don't block me if I have typos or poor grammar.

by Oregon Mountaineer on Nov 5, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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