WVU vs. Syracuse: Things That Made Me Want To Throw My Shoe
My life would be so better if I were to just write things down from time-to-time. I would be more likely to remember important dates. I would remember to buy skim milk, instead of the the more delicious 2% variety. Actually, I do that on purpose.
I have also been told that keeping a journal can help you get control of your emotions. "Write things down," the doctors in the psych ward would say. "It will stop the build-up of emotions from bubbling over into shoe throwing." Don't worry, I won't listen them.
Finally, writing things down would also help me remember what really made me go into a rage over the weekend. Good thing I have the police reports...
#1
There was little to no enthusiasm at Mountaineer Field on Saturday. I felt as if I was walking into a funeral home, not a Mountaineer home game. Wait, would that qualify as foreshadowing? For the first time all season, however, I can understand why. While I still act like a kid on Christmas morning at Mountaineer games, I understand it is hard to get excited for short side run, short side run, QB pressure and then a punt. I found myself sitting on my hands in stunned silence at the ineptitude of our offense, while our defense was fighting to keep us in the game.
#2
I have never understood the logic of giving up on a possession. You have four downs to get a first down. Statistics show that you should go for it on fourth down more often than not, though that is an argument for another day. The lameassery I am talking about is what happened early in the game Saturday. Jeff Mullen graduated from the Don Nehlen school of, "We are scared to throw the ball down the field so let's run an inside draw and give the ball back to the other team." Sure, it is the "safe" call in third and long situations. However, as we saw earlier in the year a fumble is almost as likely as an interception. Don't give up on a possession and please, for the love of God, try to get a first down.
#3
That was the worst student crowd I have seen for a game while school is in session, EVER. They arrived later than normal, the sections never filled up, they made little to no noise and many left at halftime. It is finally time for the students to lose a section of seats. Every year, the problem gets worse and worse. Many stay in the parking lots to socialize instead of using their ticket to enter the game. You could call the student section a wasteland and it would fit all meanings of the word. If students would rather drink and socialize, that is great. Just give up your ticket to someone that will use it to cheer on the Mountaineers.
#4
What is up with the renewed obsession with the wave at Mountaineer Field? I thought the wave died in the 90's. One of the loudest points of the game was when people were cheering on the wave. HELLO! There was a boring football game being played on the field. At least pretend to pay attention.
#5
I may get slammed for this, but Mountaineer Field is UGLY. The press box is drab and looks run down. The nasty battleship grey colored walls look make everything seem dark and depressed. The shrubbery in the endzone is an embarrassment and shows the shortsighted nature of our previous administration. If it were not for the ribbon boards, the stadium would be absolutely devoid of color and energy. The Puskar Center has been modernized to impress recruits, but Mountaineer Field, our image to viewers around the country, has not been aesthetically improved since it was built in the 80's. I trust Luck will get the ball rolling on improving Mountaineer Field in the near future.
#6
How in the hell did Syracuse beat us on Saturday? Jeff Mullen, Dave Johnson and Bill Stewart should donate their paychecks from Saturday's game to WVU Hospitals. I'm sure that would help cover the medical bills of all the WVU fans that repeatedly poked themselves in the eye during the game.
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The fans were not the problem…. the game was. My friend who graduated from Syracuse remarked about how loud the place was during the initial few drives. It was Mullen and Stewart that sucked the life out of the fans, not the fans sucking. As for the shitty student section I totally agree we need to do something. Finally, the field, yes it need to be a little more eye catching…. you tend to notice when the product on the field is so lack luster. I didn’t even realize we had a stadium till 2008 and the beginning of the “new ice age” of the mountaineer offense.
If you want to simply be entertained stay home and watch cartoons. If you want to cheer on your team, come to Mountaineer Field.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
don't just call out the students-
there were a lot of patches of blank seats in all sections. I blame the lameness of homecoming on some of that. At games I always have one friend that says " oh shit the band started drinkem down lets go." My suggestion is a bigscreen out front (like at pens games) If you want to sit outside and booze go ahead or realize that the band is on the field get it moving. Lastly, students should only be rewared tix if apply for them during the week (supply and demand works they say)- and lets get them down in the lower corner again to make it a little louder.
James Harrison is going to break Colt McCoy in half!
by cleveland sucks on Oct 27, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
The game was soldout.
There were very few empty seats in the general public section of the stadium. Yet, there was at least 2-3 thousand empty student seats, just staring at the entire press box side. The students get the blame on this one, yet the athletic department is complicit in letting it get to this state.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 27, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
There were more empty seats in section 210 of the students, than all other sections combined.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a ton of students missing - I am not arguing that point
right before kickoff I looked around and saw a good bit of empty spots on the press box side. They filled in but that should not happen.
James Harrison is going to break Colt McCoy in half!
by cleveland sucks on Oct 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Personally I think everyone should be in to see The Pride, but I’m a huge dork.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It should become a tradition.
I know noon is early. I know there’s tailgating to be done. But a tradition of being inside the stadium with 15 minutes until kickoff would make Mountaineer Field that much more imposing. Or imposing, as it’s a shell of its former self.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 27, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If We Could
My son is a junior and he is guilty as charged. The students took the SU game as serious as Stew and the team did. The “run on” was lethargic. It was like the whole program was on quaaludes. I was in sec. 202 and the stands were full and we were loud on Cuse 3rd downs throughout the game. However, the Mountaineers as a whole are boring to watch. Watch Oregon then watch WVU, it looks like a different sport.
So?
Listen, Stew isn’t getting the job done, but people continually show up to Wisconsin football and they’re boring as hell. It shouldn’t have to take the most exciting team in America to get people into the stands.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 27, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!
If you don’t get excited about a WVU game then you shouldn’t be a fan. I don’t care how the game plays out. Stay loyal and stay loud.
I wish I was closer to Mo-town cause daddy would be at every game!
by TCfromDubVee on Oct 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s hard to stay loud when you have to watch your HC and OC try and invent new ways to blow games. I was loud the entire game. Not so much when we had the ball but what reason did I have. Not sure but Wisconsin is boring to watch because of their style of play, we are boring to watch because we have no style of play and it’s hard to continually watch a chicken run around after you chopped it’s head off.
At least Wisconsin is ranked.
And you shouldn’t be cheering constantly when we have the ball anyway, only after we make a big play and/or a first down. Loud cheering is reserved for the entire time when the opponent has the ball.
by Country Roads on Oct 27, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
go to the game if you want or don’t. cheer if you want or don’t. stand if you want or don’t. boo if you want or don’t. wear gold if you want or don’t. do the wave if you want or don’t. come late and leave early if you want or don’t. just don’t tell me how to be a fan. it’s stupid and pretentious to tell people how they ought to behave in their recreational time.
by The 25314 on Oct 27, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure anyone is "telling anyone how to behave."
More like encouraging other purported fans to attend games.
I think we can all agree that Mountaineer Field is simply a better venue when it’s full and fans are cheering. There are benefits to be had when WVU packs the house—-it brings in money, it helps the players on the field (to a degree), and it looks good for recruits and the media. Those are all good things. Therefore, if you are a fan of WVU, it’s reasonable to encourage someone to do their part to help the program.
by Country Roads on Oct 27, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You hold our coach to a high standard...
I hold our fans to high standard. I would not be able to coach an FBS school, but I damn sure know how to cheer for one.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But he gets paid $800,000 per year. We have to pay $50 just to go to games. I think that gives you the right to boo if you want.
Why is everything a "right" these days
I’m not trying to take away your “rights,” I’m not a commie. I just don’t think it is productive to boo your team. I know when I get boo’d on my way to the office it makes me a sad panda.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 28, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You should NEVER boo your team
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally Agree
1) Preparation and Play Calling was the worst I’ve seen in WVU history and it doesn’t help your O-Line doesn’t block or for that matter collapses every pass.
2) Granted I don’t agree with 4 down rush and long, but then again I don’t remember much I agreed with the offensive play book
3) The Student crowd progressively becomes worse – Agreed Worse Showing of Students Ever…. We even has some students sitting with us in a box… out of control!
4) “The Wave” – The last thing I am at Milan Puskar Stadium for! Just looked it up in the dictionary and it is listed…. I’m not at the game to do the freakin wave… I’m there to cheer, scream, and watch Mountaineer Football… I don’t drive from the other side of the state to watch the wave…. I may puke if I see it vs. Cinci. All included in the wave should have a 30 minute corner time-out… out of control!!!!
5) Field “UGLY” – would go that far… I love our turf that’s were it ends… upgrades are needed, but you have to win if you want more money for upgrades!!!!! Why create more seats… the students wont even fill theirs up?
6) Agree – only I need compensation from the puke fest too!!!!!
The fans/students aren’t into the game because they don’t have faith in their head coach or offensive coordinator. Another reason they likely aren’t cheering is because of the worst home schedule in the history of WVU football (at least recent history). It’s fine to argue all day on a message board whether that should or shouldn’t be the case. I’m just sayin’ that’s the case.
I believe that the majority of fans not only want that coordinator fired, but Stewart gone as well.
This has been an epedemic for years
Not just because of Stew and the schedule. Huggs fights this as well. He’s even gone on record saying as much.
It is about the money w/students losing seats.
If you are all about treating the athletic department as a business, you should want students to lose seats too. Take out a section of students seats and that is more money flowing into the athletic department in donations, ticket revenue and concession sales.
The atmosphere at games is affected by fans unhappiness in the coach. That is 100% true. It cannot be argued. I just hold our great fanbase to a higher standard and would like them to cheer on our team, even if they hate the coach. It does not seem that much to ask.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
why?
why should our fanbase be different than other unhappy fanbases? I do understand your frustration. It’s just not realistic to think that “our” (insert any team’s fans) team is going to be different.
Unhappiness generally creates silence, just like you refrain to in #1 listed above…..“sitting on my hands in stunned silence”
Other unhappy fan bases?
Like Michigan, Penn State, LSU, etc., the last few years who complain about their coach but still go to the game? Like South Carolina fans, who sold out every game the year they were 0-12? Yeah, totally unreasonable to expect our fans to do the same as fans of so-called big time programs.
by Country Roads on Oct 27, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said above.
Nobody’s perfect, even me, and as you pointed out, I was not cheering at times Saturday because of my frustration with our offense. When I realized I was silent, I stood up and made noise. I hold our fans to a high standard, you should do the same. You want WVU to be the best right?
I find it funny that fans will criticize anything and everything players and coaches do on the field. However, when someone critiques the fans performance or attitude in the stands, the don’t like it very much.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 27, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
but there are rules and objectives for a football team that everyone knows. fan behavior is merely an opinion.
Disagree in part
Our 9-4 record is a fact. You thinking that is a failure, is an opinion. You constantly referring to our team not passing the eye test in an opinion. Even though I think our offense is terrible, that is only an opinion, not a fact. Let’s not confuse fact and opinion.
You’re right, fan behavior is an opinion. Some think we should stand-up all the time. Others think it is ok to give your knees a rest and sit from time-to-time. You think it is alright to boo. I think it is never good to boo your team. As you correctly pointed out, I’m just giving an opinion. Take it or leave it..
If you dish out criticism on a daily basis, you should be able to take it. Anyway, I’m rubber and you’re glue.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 28, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I Agree That The Stadium Needs Sprucing Up...
I read that when it was repainted a few years ago, painting the whole thing blue with a gold stripe and WV was considered. I still wish they had done that…
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
What's wrong with the wave??
It looks really cool. And it was definitely the most enjoyable part of Saturday’s game, sadly.
by Mountain Mama on Oct 27, 2010 7:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I must admit...
I’m not a fan of the wave but that’s just me. I’m always the one doing something else while it’s going on.
It looks really cool.
If you are at Mountaineer Field to look at the wave or other “cool” things then give your ticket to someone else that is there for cheering on the mountaineers. Sure, do it once when we are blowing a team up, it’s great! Do it in the middle of a struggling Mountaineer Offense, while losing… check the priority book. This isn’t high school. I hate the wave!!!!
Student section, the wave, the ambiance, blah blah blah
Metaphorically, it’s like complaining there is an ant on your picnic blanket while a 500 ton asteroid is heading toward you. We have bigger problems.
What will help attract a great coach and good recruits?
A great fanbase that is loud at home games. Facilities that are on par with others across the nation.
You’re right, our biggest problem is Jeff Mullen and Dave Johnson. However, when trying to fix a declining situation you need to look at the big picture. Facilities, uniforms and fans are part of the big picture.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 28, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Chicken or Egg
Do great coaches build a great fanbase and facilities or vice-versa?
Both???
Oklahoma State (granted they have T. Boone), Wisconsin, Clemson, Maryland, Texas A&M, South Carolina, Ole Miss
All those schools have above average facilities and have had very little success recently on the field.
It definetly helps to have a winning program and a coach that energizes a fanbase. However, it is not 100% necessary. We don’t suck by any stretch of the imagination. I just think we can be better.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 28, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions

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