WVU vs. UNLV Grades: A Unit-By-Unit Look At The Mountaineers' Win Against The Rebels
I want to jump for joy after we destroyed the Runnin' Rebels on Saturday. We put our foot on the gas and did not let up until the final musket sounded. Having said that, one great performance against an inferior opponent does not call for much excitement. A tempered enthusiasm for things to come is much more appropriate. Correct?
You know what, screw it, I'm pumped and ready to see what this team can do in the Big East! Sure, the conference is the weakest it has been since the split, but our performance Saturday makes me think we can run through it even easier than first expected.
With our nemesis USF coming to town Thursday night, my theory will be quickly put to the test. But before we get to that game, let's review Saturday's performance...
Offense: A ... From start to finish, our guys executed the game plan perfectly. Geno Smith looked poised in the pocket and delivered some perfect passes. Noel Devine created his own space, hit the holes perfectly and came out of the game healthy. While one game does not create an identity on offense. The pass first balanced attack we saw against UNLV is an identity I could grow to love.
O-Line: B ... This much maligned unit blocked pretty damn well all game. Geno had time to throw on most occasions and our backs had room to run. The only thing that lowered the unit's score were the false starts. Dave Johnson does not deserve to be our O-line coach right now, but more performances of this caliber could save his job.
Brad Starks: A ... Whether he was injured or in Stew's doghouse, he had been MIA this season. However, he broke out in a big way Saturday afternoon. He became the deep threat we have been missing. While the talent UNLV's corners is below that of most in the Big East, Starks fought for the ball in the air and ran great routes to get open. We need a deep threat to give Noel room to run and hopefully Starks can finally be that option.
Defense: A ... Jeff Casteel's unit is exceeding expectations. They are ranked 7th in yards allowed, 7th in scoring defense and 9th in rushing defense. These guys get pressure on the QB and lay the lumber in the secondary. The only thing that worries me is our coverage of running backs and tight ends.
Special Teams: A ... Greg Pugnetti absolutely kills the ball. The height he gets on his kicks makes it almost impossible to return. We need these guys to perform the remainder of the season if we are going to win the Big East.
Coaching: A ... We threw the ball deep and pushed the action all day. Not much you can complain about after that performance, but I will find a few things come Wednesday.
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My only complaint is why bother using two punt returners if they’re never going to field the ball anyway. I know the punts were only going like 35 yards, but why were they lined up 50 yards away, why didn’t they run up when they saw it was short, or why not put Jock short and Hogan long.
Other than that, it was by far the best a Bill Stewart team has played.
Who is that in the picture?
Does he play for us? I don’t recognize him.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t know, but it’s the same picture as in Country Road’s post. Apparently, it’s the only surviving photograph from the game.
Yeah, but this one's bigger.
And bigger is better. WOOOOH!!!! USA! USA!
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd game of the season
coming up Thursday night. We’re 0-1. However, I truly think we’ll win out and finish 5-1 going into the bowl game (Note: To those who don’t frequent often, I don’t count games against inferior opponents w/ lesser talent). We’re just too skilled and athletic for the other Big East teams this season. I’ve seen all of them play (except Rutgers) and none have the talent level of the Mountaineers (yes, even PITT). I think Stewart finishes w/ 11-12 wins this season.
We're 4-1
You can have your standard, which is legit. I can’t argue with your reasoning, but I’m going to stick with our actual record.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 11, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
HMMM
One could also argue that 2 + 2 = Jello, but that doesn’t make it right.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 11, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just saying
The guy thinks the only games that count are the ones that team you play is better than you (more power to him). With a down big east, how can you say any of teams WVU has left are any better than Maryland. I don’t agree with the dude. I’m just using his logic.
by hilltoppeer on Oct 11, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
By the same logic...
Marshall is still 0-0?
by Country Roads on Oct 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't think
MOOU has played anyone better than themselves?
by hilltoppeer on Oct 11, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I also don't know
where losses to inferior teams fit into his logic.
by hilltoppeer on Oct 11, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops.
I got it the other way around. Trying too hard to rip on Marshall.
by Country Roads on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
In my defense,
Columbus said “comparable talent.” And Marshall is definitely worse than everyone they play.
by Country Roads on Oct 12, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's just make shit up.
Hell, how do you think Alabama got to 13 national championships? Plus, if we end up going 27-0 this season, I think the SEC would totally take us.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 11, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I
was just being sarcastic about that guy’s method, I didn’t think it would turn into a multi-person dialogue.
by hilltoppeer on Oct 11, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
But I really want to make shit up.
It’s much easier, don’t have to worry about facts, etc. It’s how 5th Year Senior got through law school.
by Dr. Charley West on Oct 11, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
well now that I know it’s that easy I might as well stick around after the MBA.
by hilltoppeer on Oct 11, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
You can get a degree in the NBA at WVU?
Stiles will love that.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The games that count
in terms of assessing a head coach, are those that are against comparable talent. For instance, Ohio State has played Marshall, Ohio, the U, Indiana, Illinois and one other scrub. Talk shows, fans, etc. realize that Ohio State is 1-0. Friends of mine admit they only have 4 games this season, because it’s a given they win the rest due to the talent disparity. One is this weekend at Camp Randle. WVU, at least WAS, in this same boat and plays its fair share of games against lesser talent teams (everyone does). Therefore, Marshall, Maryland, and UNLV don’t really count. I do realize that our overall record is 3-1 but in terms of assessing performance of the head coach I prefer to use the games against LSU and the BEAST minus the terrible 2.
and another thing...
as I said above, I don’t think there’s any way that WVU loses any games remaining.
So if WVU had lost to Marshall and Maryland would you still only consider us 0-1 because LSU is the only real team on the schedule?
No,
that would be grounds for pretty much immediate termination and count as 2 losses. I don’t even consider those possibilities.
If WVU would have lost to Marshall, Bill Stewart would be gone at the end of this year, period.
by WVUColumbus on Oct 12, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I know you think there is no way that a team with inferior talent should ever upset a team with superior talent.
And I agree that, in principle, that’s how it should work. But the game isn’t played in principle. It’s played on the field, with real coaches on both sides who want to win and real players on both sides who have earned the opportunity to play major college football and may have issues such as class, girlfriends, arrogance, or a chip on their shoulder that they bring into the football game with them. That’s why upsets happen like WVU-Pitt, Appy State-Michigan, JMU-VT, etc., happen from time to time. And to say a coach should be fired or that a program is mediocre based on one of those results is a bit of a stretch, IMO.
by Country Roads on Oct 12, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Michigan ran their coach off based on one of those results and is yet to recover. West Virginia changed its offense based on one of those results and is yet to recover. However, if Stew had lost to Marshall, that would have been in addition to ECU and Colorado, and so it would not have been a one time event. Good teams play a couple bad games a season. Stew’s teams have only played a couple good games per season, so he may not have been safe. As things stand today, if he can string together some more good performances, it would go a long way to placating his detractors.
Even I would have been ready to fire Stew for losing to Marshall.
Unless he ended up 10-2 and made a good showing in a BCS bowl. But my point is that it’s hard to say these games “don’t really count” when there is always a real possibility of an upset.
Upsets are what makes college football fun. If there were never upsets, the sport would be a lot more boring to follow. Agreed, a pattern of being upset is cause for termination. But you’re inevitably going to be upset a few times regardless of who you are.
by Country Roads on Oct 12, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed...
Had he lost to Marshall, the tenor of everyone’s argument would be different…but he didn’t.
I still can’t believe you guys are engaging in debate about what our record is. What’s Boise State’s record, the last four or five years. I don’t care what some stranger’s assessment of our competitors is…anyone can beat anyone on a given day…Appy State over Michigan, JMU over VT, Jacksonville State over Ole Miss….just those three represent FCS schools over FBS schools, all of whom were bowl teams! Please…just line up and beat the people in front of you. All wins are wins…
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

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