Bigger East? New Commish Talking Bowls, Expansion
The New York Post is reporting that Big East officials are considering a couple of proposals that could help tip the balance of power in the college football world back in the conference's favor. The first is a potential New York City bowl game played in either Yankee Stadium or the New York Giants football stadium and would match a Big East team against a team from the Big 10. The second---get ready for this bombshell---is the potential targeting of Boston College and Maryland for conference membership (or remembership?).
Let's tackle these proposals one at a time because frankly, the magnitude of all this is too much for me to handle while I'm hungover at 1:30 p.m. on a Wednesday.
Obviously, the bowl game would be the more likely of the two to come to fruition. There has been talk of this floating around for awhile now, especially in connection with the construction of the new NFL stadium. Now, with Yankee Stadium already hosting regular season games, that gives bowl advocates some more ammo if they want to get the ball rolling. If they can play bowl games in Toronto, Detroit, and Boise, they can play one in New York City. Who knows whether the game would be another New Years Day fiesta (NYE in Times Square followed---with no sleep and the Crystal still flowing, mind you---by WVU-Penn State at noon with about 4 inches of snow on the ground? Let me think, umm...YES!), but even if it's not, it would still be an easy trip for most fans and a good matchup against a relatively weak BCS opponent. It's a no-lose situation. And honestly, references to the 2007 USF debacle after DickRod declared that WVU "is like the Yankees" aside, I'd rather play this thing in the Bronx, poor seating angles be damned. There's just something about football in a baseball stadium (not one of those hybrid deals like old Three Rivers, but a baseball-specific stadium like Notre Dame used to play away games in back in the 1930's) that gets my heart going. There's no telling how close this deal is to getting done, but if John Marinatto needs some help at the negotiating table, he knows how to reach me.
Now for the BC and/or Maryland proposal. Hahahahahahahaha. No, really. Why either one of these schools would ever leave their nice home with a warm bed in the ACC to join or rejoin the Big East is beyond me. Despite the conference's recent struggles, they are making more money and getting far more TV exposure in the ACC than they ever could in the BE. And what about the basketball schools? "Hey DePaul, thanks for letting our old guard pad their tournament resume's against you for a few years, but we think the conference needs to make a more concerted effort to constrain itself to one time zone. Have fun in the Horizon league." Yes, we would all love to see BC, Maryland, Penn State and Notre Dame join the BE for all sports, but we would also all love to see Megan Fox lying in our bed in nothing but a Noel Devine jersey when we get home from work. Neither is going to happen any time soon. That being said, if either happened, I would definitely have to change my pants.
Apparently, the conference has had so much success recently on all fronts that new commish Marinatto thinks we're dealing from a position of strength now. Dream big, John, dream big. Aim for the moon and if you miss you'll land with a loud thud among the non-BCS conferences.
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W T F !!!!
Wait a minute. Where are you hearing these rumors about MD and BC joining the Big East? Are those two schools actually having conversations with Marinatto?? Honestly, I am ALL IN FAVOR of expanding the Big East. 8 teams is way too small and only adds fuel to the fire of us being a weak conference. These two would be a nice complement in many ways, even though MD does not play football (well) despite that stupid line from Wedding Crashers!
The anger in the BC comments is comical
Take a look at just how defensive the BC fans are about the move to the ACC. It’s a laugh.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
Tough economy
Maybe BC would consider it instead of traveling to Fla. multiple times in every sport. They would save money and be more competitive in the Big East.
Maryland will leave the ACC when the ACC no longer exists. They love basketball more than football and want Dooke and UNC on its schedule.
How is loving basketball more an argument for the ACC over the Big East...
I’m under no delusions that this is actualy going to happen, but..
Assuming you send the non-football schools (I refuse to call the non-Big East football schools ‘basketball schools’ on the grounds that if SU, UConn, and Louisville aren’t basketball schools, who is?) packing into their own conference (and Georgetwon and Syracuse agree to play basketball out of conference every year for the next 30 years the next day), you’re in a basketball conference Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville (who have always been great and always will be). Pitt and WVU (who are great right now). And Cinci (who used to be great). Granted Rutgers has never done much, and USF is really new and hasn’t done much to date. But that’s still a very nice basketball conference, especially if you add BC and Maryland to it.
I completely see your point
I think the Big East is a much better basketball conference than the ACC now and in the future. However, Maryland is happy to play Duke and Carolina every year. They would rather play the kids on tobacco road than the kids at Cuse and Louisvill.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 5, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to be hard....
to convince those schools to come to the BEAST due to traditional rivalries, TV contracts, etc. I have inside info. that suggests Penn St. is the school the BEAST should target, but only when JoPa is gone. Their traditional rivals include Syracuse, Pitt and lesser extent WVU and I feel they could be swayed……Adding Maryland would be like adding Virginia….yawwwwwwwwnn
There's too much money involved
ACC schools don’t make a lot more on average from sports than Big East schools do, but the Big Ten (and SEC, and the big-name Big 12 schools) brings in way, way more cash. There’s tons of excellent reasons why Penn State always belonged in the Big East, but the reason it never has been (and never will be, now) is money.
Really?
I guess I thought that the ACC brought in more cash than the Big East? Maybe if you divide it up between all 12 teams it isn’t as much?
Regardless, the ONLY way we EVER convince ANY team to join the BE is if there are heavy financial incentives. I’m not really sure what we could offer at this point, especially considering that the current bowl agreements are sorta up in the air (and let’s be honest – they aren’t exactly paying out a lot of money either).
It does...
… but it’s not a lot more (Big East football schools bring in about $45 million/yr on average from athletics; ACC schools bring in about $54 million/yr… and Big Ten schools bring in about $76 million/yr). It’s concievable that with better TV deals and bowl arragnements, we could get in the same ballpark as the ACC. It’s totally insane to that we could get within shouting distance of the Big Ten.
lets just add some teams
Like UCF or Marshall(thats one is a joke) maybe we could get Knetucky away from the SEC maybe have ’nova put its football program in D. 1A or FBS whatever you want to call it. A team in a few years that could make sense if Flordia Atlantic stays on its current course of winning and winning bowls maybe invite them to join the conference

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