Thanks ESPN For Yet Again Completely Wasting My Time
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT
in Good Lord I Hate Your Program
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PrintListen, I'm not putting a lot of stock in this ESPN Top 40 draft that they have going on today, but I was tuning in just to see where WVU ended up. The first few picks (the USCs, Floridas, and Oklahomas of the world) were pretty obvious. They started to lose me around #16, when Oregon came off the board. Then, at #17, I completely gave up on this fiasco.
Ivan's response is priceless, but this has to fall squarely into the ESPN wheelhouse of "let's just make no sense and see how mad people get." Well, you win ESPN. You got me. I'm not mad, just exasperated at the lack of knowledge at this entire network. It's just gotten ridiculous.
I will keep watching for WVU. We'll probably be right behind Miami ... of Ohio.
UPDATES AFTER THE JUMP...
It's getting worse, and I didn't even know that scenario was even possible. We're now behind two mid-majors.
If this continues, the bulging vein in my head may need medical attention.
OK, so three mid-majors, Cal, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State all ahead of us. Really? What have any of those teams done in the past decade that has bested WVU? Nothing. And what have any of those schools done before the last decade? Nothing. This is sad.
I'm starting to get the feeling that if you were good last year and are expected to be good this year, you get moved way, way up. Everyone else sucks. Forget the other 100 years of playing football. Just last year and this year. That's it.
Hooray!
If that's your reasoning, then why wait until #28 to pick us?
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Its a Fair Statement
You should read the statements of the pundits…I never said anything about the team.
We do read.
They tend to doubt him but they do not blame everything that happened last year on him blindly. They understand it was his first year as head coach and want to wait and see what he can do in his second year at the helm.
You and Columbus, on the other hand have written HCBS off for the rest of your lives no matter what he does at WVU. You hate him and your opinions hold no weight anymore.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 4, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: We do read.
So, your opinion of love towards HCBS holds more weight than my pessimistic opinion?
That doesn’t make much sense whatsoever.
Yes, my opinion is better than yours.
Pessimistic or not, if your opinion is set in stone before anything happens, then it has no value. That makes sense.
My opinion can change. Your opinion, from everything you have said on this blog, is set forever. If HCBS does a horrible job this season I may call for him to be fired. If he does well I will praise him, if he does bad in a game I will criticize him again and if he is just ‘ehhhh’ I will say so.
You, on the other hand, will hate him no matter what.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 4, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
RoolGol
Let 5YS and this blog, which is like a stranded island in terms of admiration for Bill Stewart, Ed Pastilong and everything that is the WVU program PRE-DICK ROD, feel like the general consensus is that WVU is going to be relevant in terms of national recognition. This is the only site, besides the msnsportsnet.com, that actually feels this program will succeed under this cartoon athletic administration.
Please note, I’m not saying I AM GLAD this is the perception of my alma mater…..only that it SIMPLY IS the perception from the national pundits……no matter how much you dislike them, you’re going to be subjected to it unless you read/listen to only WV publications/news/sportstalk.
Todd Graham in 2010!!
Someone just loves to hear themselves talk
The 25314 is in the same boat as you except for the little fact that his mind could be changed about HCBS.
Dr. West is not fond of HCBS but does not share your visceral hatred of him.
Ol’Country is willing to give it another season.
I am willing to give it another season or two.
We all think Pastilong has no pull in the AD’s office and is a general waste of space. Mike Parsons should be fired.
I am about ready to just ignore your posts altogether because you are beginning to talk gibberish.
Oh and your boy Todd Graham went 7-6 in his first season at Tulsa. If they would’ve fired him after one year they would not have seen back to back 10+ win seasons.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 4, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It is soooooo blatantly obvious.....
how you can’t deal w/ any posters who “report” negative possibilities of WVU based on your attacks on those who do. And roolgol and I didn’t even say anything…..we were simply analyzing the general lack of respect given to the WVU football program from the national pundits……Be a big boy now, 5YS! Don’t shoot the delivery guy!
Your ears must be clogged with...
scarlet and gray wax because I have heard a number of pundits express skeptical but positive remarks about this years team (Andre Ware, Eric Kasilias (sp), Kirk Herbstreit, Joe Schad and other guys on College Football Live). Nobody, that i have heard, has said, as you and rolgol do, that HCBS should be fired immediately and he is the sole reason our football team is not “terrible.”
We have never received a lot of respect from national pundits. Even in ‘07 there were some guys saying we didn’t deserve in the national championship game even if we did beat Pitt.
Remember ’93 when we went undefeated and did not play in the “national championship game.” WVU has a pretty long tradition of being disrespected and overlooked by the national media. It did not just start last year.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 5, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah all HCBS
Not the fact that we have never won a national championship (thus no “tradition” according to the experts). If we fall completely out of the top 40 then HCBS could take some of the blame.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 4, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Then Boise and Klempsen.
Are you joking ESPN? Notre Dame gets picked in the top 10 because of “tradition” and Boise gets picked in the top 20 because they have been good for 6 years.
Boise plays NO ONE and should not be in front of us, but they’ve gone 80-11 the last 7 years. How cool would it be to have that kind of record… Boise needs it worse than us though. Between watching football on blue turf, being in the WAC and living in Idaho, these people need all the help they can get.
Marshall had that kind of record
I’m not sure I would trade our status for either of those records.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you ever been to WV?
Hell, have you ever traveled below the Mason Dixon line? Doubt it. They don’t have enough gel in the south to keep your hair sticking straight up.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 5, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Are you really going to come to a WVU blog and rip on the State of West Virginia? I think that gets filed in the “ideas that are not good” category.
by Country Roads on Aug 5, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Then Cal
They tout the last seven years for Cal. Everything Cal has done in the last seven years, WVU has done better. Name me the BCS bowl game that Cal has appeared in? Oh right.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
To be fair...
… they were pretty much jobbed out of a BCS spot in 2004 because of Mack Brown’s politicking; under the current system (which added the dedicated BCS championship game and changed the selection process slightly), Cal would almost certainly have gone to a BCS bowl in 2004.
OK, let's give them that credit
That still doesn’t get them close to the resume that WVU has put together recently. The amount of credit that guys like Jeff Tedford get for not doing too much at all is really baffling.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It is outrageous that Oregon and Utah are in front of us. Picked as “good recently” selections, Oregon has only won more games than WVU in a season once in the past 7 years and 11 games fewer in that time overall, while Utah has 3 fewer wins than WVU in the past 7 years.
WVU is getting jobbed because of what these people think might happen to us in the future, which is bogus. Whatever. Let Oregon have flashy uniforms and lose more games than us, and let Utah keep playing in a weak conference and lose more games than us, I’lll take the W’s over an ESPN ranking.
Thank you for backing us up.
This is bogus.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami should be mad as hell.
The U falls behind Utah, Boise St., and BYU. Does that make any sense at all?
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Are you drunk...
or just a little slow. Miami has been in the ACC since 2003.
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 5, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Drugs?
I think Schlabach is doing crack. He took BYU, Utah, and Boise State. That dude is on something
...and Oklahoma State
Then immediately mentions that they’re 27-23 in the last four years. WVU? 43-9.
by Dr. Charley West on Aug 4, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
FINALLY
Leave it to Forde, who sometimes pisses me off, to give us some love. Welcome go my good side Mr. Forde.
They are obviously picking on what will happen in the future, its the only was to explain it. Last 7 years, 67 wins, 2 BCS wins, 5 New Year’s Day Bowls, 4 conference championships, never finishing lower than 2nd in conference (even with Miami, BC and VT) or winning fewer than 8 games.
TOTALLY AGREE
25314 – You cannot cannot cannot make any rational argument that Clemson, OK State, Texas Tech, etc should be ranked ahead of us based on ACTUAL RESULTS ON THE FIELD.
I think that WVU will always struggle to garner national attention until we start putting more guys into the NFL, or until we win a National Championship. Until then, its always going to be “oh well you had Pat White, Steve Slaton….well you run a gimmicky offense…..well you play in the Big East…..blah blah blah”. We’re gonna have to continue to win BCS bowl games, Big East titles, etc in the Post Dick-Rod era to even maintain what little semblace of respect we do have, and can claim with recent bowl wins.
Apparently, they aren’t drafting on success, they are drafting on what they foresee in the future. Texas Tech? OK St.? BYU? Show me the BCS games, let alone wins. WVU hasn’t wont fewer than 8 games since 2001. Even if Bill Stewart only wins 8-9 games a year, that’s just as good as Clemson or Oregon or Wisconsin and better than Texas Tech and OK St.
In the words of George Costanza, The 25314 IS GETTING ANGRY!!!!
Crazy
This is insane! Clemson is the most overrated team of the past 20 years.
Clemson?
Is it Clemson? It always sounds like people say either Klempsin Clempson, or Klempsen?
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 4, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta second this comment.
I think their biggest highlight in the past 20 years was beating…us, in a bowl game. Utah, at least, has kicked some ass.
Also, just because Cal is supposed to be good this year, they get ranked so high? I’ve never thought that much of them…
Pitt being left off was stupid, although I’m laughing at the same time!
by phucoffaholic on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Where I live it’s Klempsun, as in I can’t believe Klempsun finished 3rd in the ACC again! I hope we beat USC
BYU
Has there been a bigger sham than BYU’s national title in ’84? They beat a 6-5 team in the Holliday bowl
thank you guy from KC
at least some one other mr. Forde relised that something might just be wrong. sure we never won a NC but even under Don Nehlen we regularly had winning season and i’ll take consentancy over a good year or two you take us to a bowl game every year over being a one shot wonder (ie OK State, Texas Tech, BYU, Boise State(Utah not a one-shot wonder they beat Pitt in the Fiesta bowl back when mayer and Alex Smith was there))
Michigan #11
really the team that lost to Toledo i would say what their mascot is but i don’t know they lost to Toledo at least we beat our lesser opponents but i guess that is only good enough for 28. Cool story that i must share on the way back from the beach this year my uncle is wearing his Fiesta Bowl Shirt form two years ago and this guy stops him and asks my uncl what he thinks of Rich Rod needless to say that the view of people in West Virginia and Michigan have the same view of him that of a total douche bag.
Damn...wish I had watched the show!
….even if it sounds like it was bunch of bullshit! Most wins by a program that has not won the national title: WVU. Certainly that merits Top 40…probably top 30. Where did they rank us?
Love the fire, though…see…we all care.
I'm a Utah fan.
I would have probably taken WVU ahead of Utah. I’m shocked that an idiot like Schlabach took Utah at #17.
However, is it really an outrage and shock that Utah is 11 spots higher? The win-loss records in the ’90’s and this decade are very similar. Both teams are 2-0 in BCS games. WVU has 4 conference titles this decade, Utah has 3. The difference comes in Utah’s two undefeated seasons during the BCS era, something no other team has done.
I have respect for WVU’s program, and I’d love to see a home-and-home between our teams.
Utah fan
Thanks for having the common sense to at least compare the two schools based on actual results on the field. I have respect for Utah for what they’ve accomplished recently, although my biased opinion is that our two BCS wins were slightly better, and our schedule is slightly tougher than MWC’s. Beating a lowly 8-4 Pitt team with your first BCS win was good, but not great. I think the other big difference between Utah and WVU is that prior to recent successes I believe we’ve accomplished much more than Utah. We appeared in many bowls, including major bowls, but lost a lot of them. However, we played for the National Championship in 1988.
Well,
At least they beat Pitt in 2004. We couldn’t even do that. But anyone who beats Pitt is alright with me. Frankly, I’m glad we didn’t have to play Utah that year because they were loaded. It would have been closer than the Pitt game, but not by much.
by Country Roads on Aug 5, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
BSPN can blow me...and all the HCBS haters
I think the subject of my post says it all when it comes to BSPN…read the magazine much better than the TV Bullshat.
Roolgol are u still going around to all the WVU sites bashing Stew and Crew? Don’t you have better things to do or has the Admin’s on the other WVU sites just gotten tired of u and put the ban hammer down? I understand u have an opinion, trust me I think every WVU fan who reads blogs knows u do, but come on man at some point you have to let up and just see where the cards fall this yr and next yr. HCBS is still playing with D-rods players i.e Big Brown. BTW, ya’ll can bash on Clemson but they have won a National Champ., granted it was in 1981. The Bowden is gone, they should have learned from us never to trust a Bowden, so let’s see where they go. BTW can anyone name a former coach of Clemson that every year a fancy piece of hardware is given out to one great player (or used to be) in his name?
Who is the moron...
Who let “trUman” on here? He comes on here and says stupid things and then he gets called out on them and immediately back tracks. Dude, why are you even wasting your time on this blog? Go chat with RU “fans” or maybe The Fruit, or UCONN.
I'd rather read trUman
than watch Columbus and 5YS argue…
Can’t wait until the players are in camp, give us something tangible to discuss.
I agree
Let’s talk about Bill Stewart fulfilling West Virginia stereotypes such as pulling up his pants some more, adjusting his head set 26 times in 21 seconds, and debating whether or not Ed Pastilong may TRULY be the luckiest man in the world to hold his position for as long as he has……oh, and how the tall WR had such a great spring and now is nowhere to be found.
People in WV...
pull their pants up really high and constantly adjust the headsets they always wear. Here I thought we didn’t wear shoes. Now we can own headsets? Golly gee willickers
by 5th Year Senior on Aug 6, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
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