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A Mountaineer Rorschach Test

I know some of us have been out of school for longer than we would like to admit but just relax. The test is not hard at all. This test is not pass/fail, in fact there are no grades at all.

All you need to do is, tell me what you see...

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Do you see...

A. A team ranked 16th in the nation?

B. A stain left on the stage after a boisterous performance by a Morgantown stripper?

C. Jeff Mullen’s newest offensive play that develops well behind the line of scrimmage and gets stuffed for a 2 yard loss? OR

D. Two Pitt "fans" playing tummy swords to determine which Steelers jersey they will wear to the bowl game?

Maybe this test is tougher than I made it out to be...

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I see a team that is ranked 16th in the nation and playing in the Gator Bowl. Nine wins is certainly not the best season ever but I’ll take it this year.

I also see a bit of disappointment. I think back to our two close losses and realize, it could’ve been so much better. Then I remember our coach is only in his second year and is about to bring in more top recruits to fit his system. Things could are looking up!

Of course, I also see a stain. You may think it is nasty but Hummer’s has a great breakfast buffet. Don’t tell my girlfriend and NEVER try the "house" syrup.

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I think I see a 9-3

"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach

by WVPiratesfan on Dec 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

I see a team with a better than average chance of ending the season at 10-3 and ranked in the top 15 nationally. But that’s also what I saw last year.

by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

i see...

two pitt fans fighting over a half eaten sandwich. oh, and i see a good team with lots of young talent with a great chance to get back to the bcs next season.

by mountie4life on Dec 10, 2009 7:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I See A Buffoon...

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Dec 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Did someone steal JP’s password or is he just calling me a buffoon? I hope he is just calling me a buffoon.

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

No, Not You...5th...

…and certainly not our coach, either! Somehow the splotch made me think of Jim Leavitt!

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Dec 11, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Your man love for me continues huh JP. Good to see you are heeding your advice once again.

This question is being asked with not a hint of sarcasm, I just want everone’s take on this. My serious questions tend to get taken the wrong way, and justifiably so, but this one is not meant to be negative or sarcastic.

As you all know, I feel that The Big East is subpar at best, I agree that the talent that has gone on to the NFL rivals the other power conferences, but I just feel that the perception by many that this is a weak conference is warranted. 5YS says that this conference is ranked 3rd, and that is great, but why is it that if we are such a powerful, top-notch, BCS represented conference do all of our big name premiere coaches use this conference as a stepping stone to the bigger and more elite programs? I understand if you throw enough money at anyone they are leaving, I understand that coaches have dream jobs and they want to follow those dreams, but no one can take this conference seriously if we constantly lose big name coaches. I am extremely disappointed to see Brian Kelly go.

by EatSchmittPitt35 on Dec 11, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

My opinion

While we are ranked as top 3 BCS conference, we are still filled with young, up-and-coming programs. We have 2 teams that have been FBS schools for less than 15 years. The Big East has some traditional powers but also some very green programs. No other BCS conference has such a mix of teams.

It will take a while for pundits and others to warm-up to the new Big East. They can only ignore stats for so long.

Coaches use some of our school’s as stepping stones because of the youth of some of your teams but also because there has been a ton of turnover with the “elite programs.” Michigan and Notre Dame are too of the biggest jobs in college football. Not many people turn them down.

Having said that, I think with time, these jobs will not be stepping stones. WV, to me, is not a stepping stone job. Fraud was just an idiot and left because of a temper-tantrum.

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Dec 11, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, if you had a 12-0 Notre Dame this year with all the other undefeated teams that are out there, do you guys think they wouldn’t be playing for the National Championship? That’s the difference I see between the Big East and other conferences, you can go 12-0 in The Big East and it just doesn’t matter, you are going to get screwed without some sort of playoff. I assume that is the way Brian Kelly is thinking. If you are a big time conference and you have a team that is undefeated, you are playing for the national championship, in the Big Eat you are not.

by EatSchmittPitt35 on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

I do not agree with your point here.

I point back to Auburn in ’05. They went undefeated in the SEC and did not get a shot to play for the national championship.

When you have more than two undefeated teams, no matter how good or bad those teams look, the “traditional powers” will get into the game, before the up-and-comers.

Also, if Colt McCoy holds onto that ball for one more second Cincy is in the title game over TCU. While we may not be considered a top tier BCS program by the national media, we are looked at more highly than those other crap conferences.

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Dec 11, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Good Questions...

I am sure you won’t like my answers…since we rarely see eye-to-eye, but I think the old perception versus reality thing really works against the Big East. Sagarin’s numbers, where our conference mean is third among the BCS 6 is a quantifiable, unbiased figure that is built throughout the season – it is kind of like a house of cards that gets higher and higher because it considers each team’s results and factors in the results of the teams they play, and the teams they play…etc. It is complicated. In fact, if you print out the Sagarin ratings, in the first six weeks of the season, it actually says on the sheet “Biased.” After those first five or six weeks, it says “unbiased,” which indicates that the house of cards is now large enough to be weighted by who all has played who.

I don’t have any idea why Rod left our program, because we are on par with all the top schools in terms of facilities and such, so I think that was a real blow to the Big East. Kelly leaving for ND, however…well I posted about it last night. I don’t think you can blame the guy. He was coaching at a school reticent to follow through on promises it made to him just last year and the Bearcats play in something like the third smallest stadium in FBS.

Also, Leavitt and Edsall are progam originators and both have had chances to leave, and haven’t yet. Schiano had a shot to take both Michigan and Miami, and didn’t leave. So, it is n’t like everyone bolts from the conference. Syracuse needs to become relevant again, and I am not hopeful because they keep hiring assistants who have never been a head coach, anywhere. I think it really hurt that Louisville was unable to keep Petrino…think how much better the perception of the conference would have been if they hadn’t gone into a nosedive, but Petrino was one of those ego coaches who had to see what he could do at the next level and he found at fast, much to Arkansas’ liking. And much, as I hate to say it…Wanstache has improved Pitt…

…so all in all, I don’t think the conference is sub-par, at all. Granted, there are way too many bowl games, but we put what, 6 of 8 into the postseason. Only the SEC’s 10 rivals that number.

Regarding the fact the so many top-level coaches have left our conference, what I think you need to consider, Schmitty, is that none of these guys are making lateral moves. Rod didn’t leave us to coach Arkansas. D’antonio didn’t leave to coach Baylor. Kelly didn’t leave to coach to coach Iowa State. These guys all left for progams with name cache.

That sucks for us as a conference, but all it takes to change perceptions is a prolonged streak of success. Think of the Colts in the pros. An epitome of excellence, right? Well in 1997, they were 0-10 to start the season!

You are absolutely right about a 12-0 Notre Dame team, but ND is engrained in college football’s DNA and that is why they would get the spot over a (likely) more-deserving Big East team. One reason we should have a freakin’ playoff…but that is a whole other discussion. Still, undefeated really doesn’t happen that often…five teams this year, but only three in BCS conferences…is kind of an anomaly. If the BE puts forth an undefeated team, I think it gets its shot unless it is an odd year like this one. Remember, 07. Hell, we had a loss and still were in line to meet Ohio St., until…you know.

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t always disagree with your points JP, I actually think you have a lot of intelligent points, and you express them in a manner that are much more mature and professional than mine. Call it a downfall or an insecurity of mine, but I do tend to always take it to an immature level, but at least I recognize I have a problem.

There definitely needs to be a playoff.

by EatSchmittPitt35 on Dec 11, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Did we just kiss and make up?

by EatSchmittPitt35 on Dec 11, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Good lord I hope not

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Dec 11, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Better When We All Play Nice...

…believe me, I can be as big a jerk as anyone, and I know it, too!

Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.

by JP Fanshawe on Dec 11, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Coaching

I lived in hell for 27 years in that god awful place called Huntington. Had to listen to all them retards talk about how great MArshall was and that they could beat WVU any given day. My fear now is that there going to get a better coach and build the program up and might I said might beat us down the road. We need to get Ed out and get the guy that owns the Diamondbacks in as our Athletic Director. Then go out and spend the money to get Meyer, Trickett, Stoops in as out head coach. Not knocking Nehlen but those years were awful get to a bowl game and lose. WE NEDD TO HIRE A TOP COACH, or GIve Holiday the the headcoaching position and hire trickett as our line coach, secondly and pay all the assistant coaches more money to keep them here, instead of Mullen, and go out and get a offense coach tha knows what the heck is going on.

by WVUDIEHARD1976 on Dec 11, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Is this a joke?

Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.

by 5th Year Senior on Dec 11, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Actaully does sound eerily familiar to a few fans I’ve sat next to over the years.

by EatSchmittPitt35 on Dec 11, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s nothing funny about head coach meyer, trickett, stoops. He’s the real deal.

by The 25314 on Dec 12, 2009 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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