The Infamous Stiles: Idle WVU Football & Basketball Thoughts
by Stiles on Nov 19, 2009 10:08 AM EST
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Print[For those that don't know, Stiles is a founding member of this site. Unfortunately, he was kidnapped by human traffickers and now works as a bellhop and man servant in Central America. Still a big WVU fan, though.]
Recently, with the football season gone to hell and the basketball year starting, I’ve had even more idle thoughts than ever. Today, I’ve decided to share some of those with you…
This Joe Mazzulla injury scares me. Without him, I don’t think WVU can be a Final Four team. I believe he’s the perfect starter to match up with Ebanks and Butler. Mazzulla can get them the ball in their spots and get out of the way. From the little I saw last year, I’m not in love with Truck Bryant’s game. He’s a classic NYC point guard, in that he loves to pound the ball into the ground. Plus, he likes to shoot, which he shouldn’t be doing a lot of when Ebanks, Butler and Jones are on the floor together. To me, he’s the perfect spark plug off the bench.
Down here, I have to take some malaria medication, which causes some interesting dreams. The other night I might have had my wildest- Robert Johnson chucking the ball to J.T. Perry in WVU uniforms.
If Joe Manchin starts sniffing his nose around the basketball team this year, I hope Huggins tells him to go back to the Governors Mansion.
It’s time for the Stiles discussion of replacing Bill Stewart even if he isn’t likely going to be replaced. Much to my dismay, might I add. Obviously, I have Jimbo Fisher number one. I don’t think he’ll be leaving FSU, but he’s the total package in my opinion. Good recruiter. Ties to the state. Young.
From there I break it down into two different categories – 1. Older, experienced coach. 2. Young and up and coming.
Let’s start with the old dudes first:
- Tommy Tuberville – I felt he got a raw deal at Auburn. He was a winner there, until the last season. Plus, anybody that goes undefeated in the SEC can coach. Also, this would allow WVU to make up for not hiring a former Auburn coach like they should have before settling on Stewart. And settling on Stewart is the perfect way to describe it, too.
- Charlie Weis – Just kidding. The only guy that handles in game stuff worse than Stewart. 4 and 1? Just chuck it up, dawg!
- Tommy Bowden – Why not?
Young and up and coming:
- Butch Jones – My number three choice after Fisher and Tuberville. The receivers were much improved the year he was here. Plus he has kept the Central Michigan machine running smoothly after replacing Brian Kelly.
- Charlie Strong – Good recruiter and defensive coach. Hanging around Meyer, you have to figure he would know somebody who can coach offense.
That’s it for now. I don’t want to go any further or I’ll start to get depressed. I just want that whole staff at the Pusker Center cleaned out after the fifth of Decemeber. It’s not too much to ask for, right?
I came across Charley’s discussion of Bill Stewart possibly becoming AD and I almost started to cry like Nancy Kerrigan after she got clubbed in the knee – WHY ME? WHY ME? Let’s set the record straight, this should never EVER happen. I know Pastilong has his detractors, but the guy has been impressive this decade. The football team, basketball team, cross country team and soccer teams have either seen new heights or heights they haven’t seen in a long time this decade. Even the volleyball team was half decent this year. I would say probably the Athletic Department is at an all time high right now. So why would we hand it to Stewart? We’ve already seen he can take something that is top 10 and run it right back to mediocre. Do we need to see it again? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, same on me.
Besides, can you see Stewart chairing a hands on meeting to discuss numbers? Here’s what I picture:
- Stewart – This year we are running in the red, which as you know, is awesome.
- Guy with a clue – Uh, Bill, that doesn’t mean awesome, that means bad.
- Stewart – What are you taking about? When you are in the red area in football that means good.
- Guy with a clue – OK, Bill, let me explain this to...
- Stewart – They remember the final numbers. And they are awesome. Meeting adjourned.
We don’t need this, folks. Another time, I’ll expand my thoughts on the AD. But suffice to say, Dr. Charley West isn’t in the fold. Although I would put him higher on the list than Stewart.
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Seriously?
So you want Stewart gone but you want to keep Eddie P who was the reason Stewart was hired in the first place? This is a pathetic article first and foremost. You want the entire staff gone at the end of this year? Stewart has the highest winning percentage of any new coach in the history of WVU football and has put together one of the best staff’s excluding a couple positions in WVU history. Our recruiting has never been as good as it is right now and you want everyone gone? You seriously call yourself an intelligent writer? If we did what you wanted we wouldn’t win 6 games for the next 5 years you idiot. Not 6 games! We would become Syracuse Jr. Do you know how difficult it would be to recruit if we got an entie new offensive and defensive staff. You talk about getting someone with ties to the state Tuberville has ZERO ties to WVU in terms of recruiting. Are we going to go and try and get all of our kids from Alabama now? Bowden hasnt coached at a high level in over a decade and you feel b/c he is leading a team full of Division 1 transfers against 1AA talent to an undefeated season he is ready to take the reigns at WVU now? We would not win 6 games next year if that happened and half of our program would transfer out if these assistants left not to mention some of these kids would be on there 3rd head coach in 4 years!. Seriously man put some thought into your writing. This is the worst idea possible. But wait… there’s more… Then you out do yourself again, I am not saying Butch Jones isnt a good coach but he coached WVU WR’s for 1 year and remember this was under Rodriguez where except for Reynaud I dont think anyone came close to 20 catches but somehow our WR were improved. Well yea they improved b/c they couldnt get any worse. If this is the best writing you got and you really believe this crap to be true… god help you and I am glad people dont have to pay for this site because you would be out of business very fast.
You joined this site to write that?
Wow. A lot of pent up hostility.
Someone writes what they think and you 1) call them pathetic; 2) rhetorically ask them if they’re intelligent; and 3) make an overall jackass of yourself.
You didn’t say anything patently offensive, so I won’t ban you, but think before you speak next time.
by Dr. Charley West on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
What's up w/ you lately????
Big time power trip….
He said Tommy Bowden, not Terry....
neither of which I think are altogether terrible ideas, by the way. Not my favorite, but they could do worse. But back to my original point, which is that you, sir, are a cad.
by couchburner on Nov 19, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Stew’s winning percentage (17-7, 71%) through 24 games is actually quite comparable to Nehlen’s theorectical first 24 games, if you inserted two DI-AA cupcakes as the first game of the season like coaches get today (16-8, 67%). By today’s standards, Nehlen had 10-win seasons for three of his first four years here. I’m not arguing anything by that, just throwing it out there.
I will say that, “has put together one of the best staff’s [sic] excluding a couple positions in WVU history” is solid gold. It’s like saying that Chernobyl has a perfect safety record, excluding one day in 1986.
by The Double U on Nov 19, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
In addition to Double U’s very good points.
RichRod was completely overhauling all three aspects of our team follwing the last two years of Nehlen, which produced 11 combined wins, with Brad Lewis.
Stew “tweaked” an offense, and kept the D and special teams from a team that had produced 22 wins the previous 2 years and had Pat White.
Furthermore, in RR’s second year, he went 9-4 and 6-1 in the old Big East of VT, Miami and BC. We lost to #2 Miami, #13 Maryland, #22 UVA and at Wisconsin.
He won road games at #19 VT on a Wed. night and #23 Pitt.
He won 6 more games his second year than his first.
Likewise, Nehlen went 6-6 his first year and 9-3 his second, after taking over a program that had only won 7 games the previous to years. His second year, his only losses were to #1 Penn St., # 4 Pitt, and at Syracsuse.
Stew and his staff have lost 7 games in his tenure while only coaching against ONE ranked team. He hasn’t beaten a ranked team yet (though he’s only played one) and only has 3 road wins in 2 years.
Stats prove this is the worst second year of a WVU coach since Frank Cignetti, in easily the best and easiest situation of the 3 coaches.
Ao Terry had a bunch of first year players in his system as a first year as head coach and didn’t need a transition year? Or time for him to learn how to be a head coach? Or time for his offensive coordinator to learn how to be an offensive coordinator?
by The 25314 on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
First coach
He was the first coach to go undefeated at a D-I school in his first year. That is how rare it is that a coach comes out of the gate like gangbusters.
Don’t get me wrong, I wanted Terry hired in the first place but stuff happens.
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 20, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
The only job I would want stew to have is head of the MAC. I think he could be good at that.
by The 25314 on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hmm
Well, I certainly never said my writing was intelligent. So lets not work off the premise I’m some sort of genius.
My favorite part of your rant is when you say that WVU has put together one of the best staff excluding a couple positions. The only problem is they all count. Our offensive line, wide receivers, defensive backs and special teams have all gone backwards.
I never said they should keep Pastilong. What I said was he hasn’t done that bad of a job. The overall athletic program is in very good shape.
Butch Jones has shown enough to me that leads me to believe the guy could get it done here.
Most of WVU’s recruits come from out of state. Tuberville has ties all over the south, where, get this, wvu gets most of its players. Unreal, right?
Who is to say that the recruits or guys would leave? Maybe they’ll miss singing kum-bi-ya with Stew, but I’m sure if they can adjust to the new coach.
I didn’t mean Tommy. I meant Terry. That’s what happens when you go around all day trying to pronounce Spanish names that sound nothing like they look.
Finally, I don’t want Stew involved in anything. I want him on a farm in New Martinsville.
Coaching Staff
I disagree that the WRs and DBs have gone backwards, at least in comparison to the previous staff. I feel like Arnett, Starks, and Sanders have all improved, except for maybe blocking. As for DBs, Hogan and Lankster both improved significantly last year. Hogan has struggled some this year, and Tandy has taken his lumps, but they were both very solid against Cincy. I’ll give you the O Line, though. To date, Dave Johnson has not impressed me. And I can see where you could question Mullen, and obviously Stew. But the rest of the staff, IMO, is solid and have proven themselves to be such.
by Country Roads on Nov 19, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Charley
I’ve read 2 entries today where you’ve threatened to ban posters. That brings the total number of people you’ve threatened in this manner to 2 since I started subscribing to this blog. The stress of football season getting to you or are we needing a late hump day?
I second that motion.
Think about the guys available last time. Gary patterson, chris Peterson, Dan mullen, chip Kelley, jimbo fisher, bud foster, Terry bowden, butch jones.
Some of these guys have flaws, some may not have been interested, but all should have been considered and very few were even contacted.
by The 25314 on Nov 20, 2009 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh and put me down for Ken Niumatalolo (navy head coach).
by The 25314 on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it would work
its working at GT so I say go for it
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
by WVPiratesfan on Nov 20, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I Predict...
…all you naysayers will be loving this staff when we are 10-0 and ready to host Cincy next year. There are too many statements in the above that piss me off to even begin a rebuttal now.
Thank God I spent the weekend in Tennessee…much to the happiness of many of you, I am about to give up on this board.
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