WVU vs. Cincinnati: Grades and Recap
While it appeared we improved in some areas, we lost the game and at the end of the day, that is all that matters. This was not a moral victory and we can and should do better. I certainly expect better. I am very disappointed in this coaching staff and some of the players performances on Friday night.
All that being said, there is no way in hell that Bill Stewart should be fired at the end of the season. Dave Johnson on the other hand is (hopefully) already on the way out [ed. -- this is on my Christmas list]. If anyone knows a good Realtor, he will be needing help very soon.
With that said, on to the grades...
Jarrett Brown and Ryan Clarke: A JB was under constant pressure the entire game, but kept his cool and delivered some big plays. He kept a lot of busted plays alive with his feet and delivered the ball when he got a couple seconds to throw. Unfortunately, that wasn't too often. He seems to be (finally) fully recovered from the concussion and ready to lead this team to potential wins over Pitt and Rutgers to finish the season.
While the Cincy D bottled up Noel Devine, Ryan Clarke lowered his head and ran for some tough yards Friday night. His emergence this season has helped to fix the huge problem we had on third and short a year ago. Does he remind anyone else of Robert Waker? If he does, shouldn't the new Robert Walker get the ball more?
Offensive Line: F They were a huge concern coming into the season and seem to have negatively surpassed those (lack of) expectations recently. Early in the season, JB's ability to escape pressure and Noel's ability to make people miss masked the fact that our O-Line thinks it is illegal to block. They are just not giving us a chance to win games, plain and simple. Dave Johnson has not earned the right to keep his job.
Defense: C+ The middle of the field was open all game and I am really surprised Brian Kelly did not exploit it play after play. I don't know if it is the scheme or lack of field presence, but our LB's never seem to get enough depth when playing zone coverage over the middle.
Casteel, how can you continue to call blitzes up the middle when they are running to the outside on every play? In years past, we saw more blitzes from our spur and bandit positions which brought pressure off the corner and would've been perfect to get a stop against the run.
Special Teams: C- It would've moved up to a damn B, despite the terrible kick-off team, if HCBS would've let Tyler Bitancurt make that field goal.
Coaching: D Why not let him attempt that field goal? Is it easier to make a field goal or recover an onside kick? HCBS tried to exhibit the killer instinct that many were calling for after the USF game. Unfortunately, he exhibited it before the opponent was even close to stunned. It was like trying an uppercut in Punch Out before your opponent was wobbling. You just don't do it.
Replay Official: F With the angle of the camera, the fact that the ball appeared to be moving when Pead began to stretch it out and the reaction of Cincy players, that call could not be overturned by a sober person. Not one Cincy player signaled touchdown including Pead. With all the grades being so poor, the last thing we needed was the officials to screw us, and screw us they did.
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So what do you think? Are the grades too low? Too high? Do Bill Stewart's struggles put more of a microscope on every decision he makes? Let us know in the comments.
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Defense
They held the nation’s 3rd ranked offense to its lowest output of the season and created 2 (really 3, but one was overturned) turnovers, the first of which got our offense into the game. A -
I would have given the D a B+. Ditto what country roads said.
by The 25314 on Nov 16, 2009 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think you’re being too hard on the Oline. While they have been bad all year, they seemed to take a step up on Friday night compared to their previous performances. At times they maintained the pocket and I recall seeing them get a good push to open up holes for the running game. Were they still bad? Of course, but there was improvement and against a quality opponent that can’t be discounted.
The coaching on the other hand deserves an F, not so much because of Stewart, but due to Mullen’s bipolar playcalling.
The defense probably deserves a B-. Yeah they had issues, but they also held an offense that has repeatedly gashed its opponents to a reasonable point total despite being hamstringed at several positions.
Have to agree
I feel like the grades are pretty spot on. If there were a lower grade than “F” for the OL, I would give them that. They are just awful.
Joe Madsen is the only starter worth his weight, I think he’s played pretty well.
At this point, it’s laughable that Josh Jenkins was an Army All-American. Granted he is young, and this is really his first year as a starter, but c’mon….he’s constantly getting manhandled.
If Selvish “The Revolving Door” Capers is a 1st round, NFL lineman than I better enter my name into the draft this year because the OL class must SUCK.
Barclay and Jobe have shown me nothing.
And without going into much detail, they should have kicked the field goal. Period. It solely will receive my first “No” vote when the poll is published this week. Just bizzare playcalling late in the game.
Defense played well enough to win that game. They did everything they needed to do to put our offense in a position to win, but we came up short on the offensive end. My hat is off to Casteel’s group this week.
Do Bill Stewart’s struggles put more of a microscope on every decision he makes?
Now? Yes. He lost some support with the playcalling at the end of the game. Previously? I really feel like certain “fans” of WVU have had a prejudice against Stew since day 1 and will always put everything he does under a microscope, regardless. I’m not saying you can’t question Stew or say he’s wrong because I’ve already done that, but that group exists and it’s a sad thing to surround this football program.
Replay official
Even with a fumble ruling on the one yard line, your terrible OL would surely have given up a safety, with UC having the ball back at around midfield.
I would say go back to your own site
…but we both know there isn’t a Cincinnati Bearcat fansite anywhere. You need fans first. It says something about you, though, that you continue to troll three days later. Not much going on in your life, is there?
by Dr. Charley West on Nov 16, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
ensuing kickoff
Didn’t the ensuing kickoff result WVU taking possession inside the 5 anyway? (Tavon Austin fumble) Or am I remembering this wrong.
Misdirection, Charley-tan?
tsk, tsk….you’ve totally lost your sense of humor, Doc….and why are you permitted to use ‘misdirection’? Why do you care about ‘my life’? Got some man-love for me, big boy?
There’s a couple Bearcat fan sites, but they’re not nearly as well done as this one….happy to send you links if you’d like us to believe you haven’t read them….actually UC doesn’t have many fans (homers)….. just very astute sports observers who tell it like it is (like me :) regardless of who the observation hurts.
You want the truth here it is. You all are hurting because pitt can run the ball up the gut and they do it well
your team does not have the size on the DLine to run a 3-4 so expect pitt to rack up at least 200 yards rushing
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
by WVPiratesfan on Nov 16, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Obviously it will be UC’s toughest game….just hoping the Eers are heartened by their moral victory to soften them up a bit before 12/5.
fyi
you can take “moral victory” and shoce it straight up your ass. we got robbed by replay, nevermind piss poor coaching. we’ll see your sorry asses next year punk
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Nov 16, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Next year?
Must be an echo in here….thats what you said last year.
Someone has to
If the good Dr. doesn’t care about you, then unfortunately no one will.
Much like 2 seasons from now, when Cincinnati is back to their 5-7 ways, no one will care about them.
But congrats to your Bearcats, they played a decent game, and their gift wrapped Christmas present by the replay official allowed your team back into the game when it was obvious the sidelines and the stands were totally deflated.
For the Big East sake, I hope Cinci can have a better showing than what they have done on National TV the last two games. If not, that BCS game will be a long painful game.
by BurghMountaineer on Nov 16, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Johnson
The O-line seemed to be the worst aspect of our team last year—going into the year, everyone expected it to be one of the best. I had the impression that the senior-laden line had taken their preseason hype to heart a bit much, and was willing to give Johnson somewhat of the benefit of the doubt.
This year, the O-line is still bad. I’m inclined to give coaches the benefit of the doubt initially, but I think it’s clear at this point that the line needs a shake-up.
I think you've got that backwards.
Last season our offensive line, as a unit, was named “The Best Offensive Line in the Country” by Athlon (I think it was Athlon? Correct me if I’m wrong) magazine in their College Football Preview issue. You saw how miserably they underacheived that kind of billing.
After losing four starters from that unit, I don’t think anyone possibly could have thought that they would be one of the best aspects of this edition of Mountaineer Football. They were, without a doubt, the biggest question mark coming into this season and they’ve proven to be pretty bad.
Special teams: D. Kozlowskis great punting can only make up so much for the terrible kickoff coverage and kickoff returns, penalties and miscues.
by The 25314 on Nov 16, 2009 1:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Linebackers
Nobody on this site ever mentions how bad our linebackers are. They are the reason our defense has underperformed. Lazear(sp?) is regularly out of position, and Williams is a shell of his former self. All year they have all played really undisciplined- especially agains the run. Thats why we get killed on counter plays(Colorado) and cutbacks(CIncy) They get all sucked up inside and lose the perimeter.
Well, I Sure Wish...
Reed Williams had been one yard further to his left on Cincy’s last touchdown, because it would have been a rumblin,bumblin, stumblin pick 6. Statistically, the D is not that bad.
What the hell is going on around here?
I have not gone over to the dark side fellas. I love Mountaineer football and still love HCBS. I am just giving my honest and somewhat thought out opinion. I gave credit (JB and Ryan Clarke) and laid down some criticism (O-line and decision making). Not many other people are willing to give any credit after a loss.
We are going to finish the season 3-0 and walk away a 10 win season. I thought our performance Friday was the best since Syracuse but we still had some of the same problems we have been seeing a majority of the season. That is not alright.
I will treat Mountaineer sports just like everything else. It will piss me off, make me smile, break my heart and make me cry and give me some of my most cherished memories. I will be optimistic but I will also be realistic.
I am on the right side. I will point out the good, the bad and the ugly. I love the Mountaineers and always will!
Leave no doubt tonight! Leave no doubt tonight! No doubt! They shouldn't of played the Old Gold'n Blue.
by 5th Year Senior on Nov 16, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions
O line better and WVUSouth has me wondering....
I would have given the O-line a C this past week. They weren’t stellar, but had not had such a good game since much lousier competition at Marshall.
I brought up South because I recall from the Cincy game Lazear showing up in a play and me wondering why, as if he didn’t belong where he was….
I’ll give Jarrett a B: although he overthrew badly on that 4th and 8, there was a guy hanging on his bad ankle(s).
4th and 8 wasn’t the worst HCBS call, it was coasting into halftime AGAIN instead of trying to maybe get in field goal range.

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