The Shotgun/Throwdown: Friday (10/16/09) Edition
by WVUIE97 on Oct 16, 2009 9:19 AM EDT
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Welcome, By-Godders, to the Shotgun/Throwdown. Today we're brought to you by Lump of Coal Dark Holiday Stout, in honor of the Friends of Coal Bowl.
This just feels like a trap game to me, I don't know what it is. I just hope we put these pretenders away early and often, like last week. Weather for the game looks to be rather unpleasant, so bundle up and bring your rain gear. You may want to bring nose plugs too; a wet Herd tends to smell bad. Updated TV coverage news inside. Send in your requests, have a good weekend and see ya at the game...
What You May Have Missed:
Scouting Report: Marshall - WVMETRONEWS.COM
Colin Dunlap's West Virginia football chat transcript - PPG
Collaros helps lead Cincinnati over South Florida - Cincinnati Enquirer
"Star quarterback Tony Pike left the game with a sprained wrist, but the Bearcats didn’t miss a beat as backup Zach Collaros ran for two touchdowns in a 34-17 win over South Florida on Thursday night."
2009 Big East Fearless Picks - Week 7 - Scout.com
Big East picks, Week 7 - Big East - ESPN
College GameDay Kickoff: Week 7 preview - ESPN
News of Note:
WVU is ready to put more size, athleticism on the court this season - WVIllustrated.com
WVU quarterback trusts his line - Charleston Daily Mail
Mountaineer defense not counting out Herd air attack - Charleston Gazette
Turnovers could be Herd's edge - Charleston Gazette
Coaching is in the blood - Times West Virginian
Hertzel talks about the coordinators, T-1000 and Casteel.
Frosh adds to WVU versatility - Charleston Gazette
Shawn Alston is talked about.
Playmakers key to WVU’s success - Parkersburg News and Sentinel
Top Running Backs Will be on Display Saturday - Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register
Move to Stroudsburg pays off for West Virginia's Neild - PPG
Is MU-WVU football series fun anymore? - Charleston Gazette
and the same angles continue...
Vested Interest - MSNsportsNET.Com
I told you all on Wednesday. (This one's a notebook actually)
For Some Reason, They Call This a Rivalry - Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register
WVU and Marshall could have been playing a home-and-home series - Charleston Daily Mail
Nobody ever said they were smart. - "Marshall dropped three additional proposed games at Mountaineer Field after the Herd's return to major college football in a 1997 opening loss to WVU, it was a major miscalualation - and short-sighted."
Jock speaks out - Register-Herald
*sigh*
Goulbourne a special talent - Register-Herald
*shock* This is new.
West Virginia Illustrated
There are videos (FB and BB related) that you may like, linked at the bottom of this linked page. I didn't want to go "full epic" again this week and embed them.
Recruiting:
Plenty of recruits in Morgantown for West Virginia/Marshall clash - Charleston Gazette
Touted Ohio Linebacker Coming to Morgantown - Eersports.com
Inside linebacker Jewone Snow of Canton, Ohio is taking an official visit to WVU this weekend.
Could Gloster Commit Help Net 'Eers a Top CB Prospect? - Eersports.com
Good Counsel (Md.) cornerback Louis Young, a close friend of WVU commitment Troy Gloster, is considering WVU among others.
What's On Tap:
Mountaineer Madness - MSNsportsNET.Com
As 5YS posted yesterday, come out tonight and get your first look at the Basketball Mountaineers.
Marshall Thundering Herd vs. West Virginia Mountaineers, October 17 2009 - ESPN
3:30 pm Saturday on ESPN360, if you won't be attending. WVU is favored by 21. UPDATE: SNY network's website is listing the game to be shown live there.
Pittsburgh Panthers vs. Rutgers Scarlet Knights, October 16 2009 - ESPN
Tonight, 8 pm on ESPN and ESPN360. Pitt is giving 5.5.
Around the League (and Beyond):
Big East Football Preview - Scout.com
Bulls face a difficult climb back - Tampa Tribune
"Note to the rest of the nation: Thanks for checking in. We enjoyed having you" - Maybe that should read "from" instead of "to"?
UConn-Louisville Football Sold Out - University of Connecticut Official Athletic Site
None of the dedicated blogs (that I usually check) are talking about this game. Both school's fan bases seem to already have switched gears to BB.
Syracuse declares Friday's Midnight Madness a sellout - syracuse.com
...and so has this fan base.
Pitt looking for first win against Rutgers since 2004 - PPG
Tailgate Recipe of the Week:
I thought this was appropriate, given the one of the usual derogatory nicknames we have for MooU. Click on the pic to get to the recipe.
Atomic Buffalo Turds
Reason #988 that WVU is better than Marshall:
He may not have played much in the NFL or won a National Championship, but (warning: Nehlenism approaching) dad-gummit, nobody electrified this state like the Major (until Herrs Slaton and White came along).
Video of (Dis)Interest:
For you degenerate gamblers out there trying to decide on who to take in the annual Red River Shootout, here's some help. Thanks to my old friend, Badfinger, for pointing this one out.
Gallery of the Day:
With the baseball League Championship Series starting, here's a glance at the WAGs involved. Oh, to have Derek Jeter's life, if only for a few days.
Miss Throwdown:
Today's Miss Throwdown is one of my favorites. She simply has the best...legs...EVER. Here's Stacy Keibler.
Lump of Coal image via static.flickr.com
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This game is pathetic.
The only thing that has impressed me so far is that the crowd hasn’t started booing yet.
And as I’m typing…Brandon Hogan with an interception! Now make something of it!!!
Rumplestilskin
I don’t think detractors from the current state of the WVU football team think that these wins aren’t big enough “for big enough’s sake”. What I’m saying is that one thing we can all agree on is that we all know we beat Marshall, Colorado and other wins on our schedule, based on the significant talent differences, period.
I feel people are critical because they think to themselves, and I for sure do this, how is this performance going to fare against the South Floridas, Pitts, Cincys, of the world. We all know that simply based on talent, and talent alone, that the basement should be 7-8 wins for what should be considered “bottom of the barrel baseline” based on our relatively weak schedule (although the Big East is way better than the ACC or Big 10….it just is….watch the games). If you have less than this amount of wins = immediate review of the program and probable dismissal BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE (if we played Miami’s schedule this obviously would be revised).
Therefore, 25134, Schmidt, myself and others are probably thinking how this performance would fare against the better teams on the schedule, and I think pretty much all would agree that the following scenario is extremely reasonable based on our overall team play up to this point:
-Likely win vs. UCONN
-Likely win vs. Louisville
-Likely loss vs. Cincinnati
-Likely loss vs. South Florida (based on their awesome DLine and adequate offense)
-Pitt and Rutgers are total question marks right now.
Many of us on here have said that 10-2 is what we’ll allow and I agree w/ this. I think that would be a very good record for this team and anything less is a disappointment…..it just is, because as I stated above 7-8 wins are a given based on talent alone….if we go 8-4 that means that we likely lost to 3 out of the following 4 teams: Rutgers, Pitt, USF, Cincy and when you’ve raised the standards (the way they’ve been raised at WVU….and that’s a GREAT thing) then 8-4 is simply not acceptable under those conditions.
and also 8-4 means that
we would go 1-4 against teams w/ comparable (not better, but just comparable) talent levels as WVU.
Liberty, ECU, Marshall, Colordado, Syracuse, Louisville, UCONN…………I’ve seen all of these teams play, including UCONN just yesterday, and they aren’t close to talent level of WVU….they just aren’t….watch the games, the speed of the players, etc. I think most of you would agree w/ this?
I feel 1-4 against the 5 teams w/ comparable talent levels would be crushing and a significant concern….if we played just to go to the “Walmart Tshirt Bowl”, then fine but thank the good Lord we no longer are THAT program.
Most of us are concerned because it’s reasonable to think that we are closer to 1-4 vs. 4-1 against these 5 comparable talent level opponents based on our level of play.
Finally, this is a VERY reasonable, objective argument that I find difficult to shoot holes in. If one decides to, then I have to question your standards of what you think WVU football should be.
by WVUColumbus on Oct 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it is a reasonable argument
It’s just funny how you’ve gone from “lucky to get to 6-6” and now it’s 8-4
it's a reasonable argument, I just don't completely agree with it.
Your argument implies that the ONLY factors in games are player talent levels and coaching. Both of which are very subjective. There are too many other factors that go into games and a knowledgeable fan, such has yourself, has to admit that. Among the other factors include (but not limited to): intelligence, experience, decision making, poise under pressure, health, strength and depth. And these factors affect each player’s ability to perform in differing degrees of importance. That is why your argument doesn’t hold water.
How many arguments...
Do you have to set up just so you can say I told you so. You know 6-6 won’t happen so you create another one where you can blame the coach. You are sad my friend.
by 5th Year Senior on Oct 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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